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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Monday 01 January 07 21:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Corny,

Between tidying up, I have just been playing about in St Enoder, so thought I would revive this oldie - hope it brings you back, I see you have not been about in a while.  ;)

I see some things I think will interest you. There are two couples - John and Kitty and William and Elizabeth involved. On one day see a heap of baptisms listed 1 to John and Kitty and 4 to William and Elizabeth. I see William and Elizabeth are living at Pleasant Cottage in 1841 and in 1851 are next door to John at Hobbs. William is born Ladock so presume they are brothers. Some of these were hard to spot so hope I haven't missed any - some look like HOCKIN or even HOCKIA  - one even looked something more like ARCKIC  ;)
Merry Xmas   ;D  ;D  ;D Cheers Kris  :)

Dear Kris,
Thank you so much for your help. I see you did much work on my behalf
and I so appreciate it!
I agree, William and John have got to be brothers, and according to Borneo's
work (which built further upon your findings) There seems to have been
a stone cutter named William who married a woman named Phillipa in 1790,
who lived in Laddock and had children and grandchildren named after themselves.
It's just all so amazing.
With the help of a groundskeeper at St. Enoder, I have a picture of the gravestone of
three of the folks you mention --
William & Kitty Hocking (my gggg-grandparents) and
their young son who dies at 14. These are all buried at St. Endoder.
Here it is
http://thechars.smugmug.com/photos/61832864-L.jpg
Note it says of "Retue" rather than ro-to. The groundskeeper
at St. Enoder said there is  no record of that spelling anywhere.
He said many of these little hamlets and were plowed down in
then name of mineral extraction, so it would be futile to go there
and look for them.  Still it would be fun to try if I can ever save
that kind of money.
Thank you again, so  much, for your time and work. Especiall
considering it was done during the holidays!
Wow! Thank you!
Friendly Regards,
Bonnie Char ( Corney)

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Monday 01 January 07 20:30 GMT (UK)  »
Marriage
Parish Mawnan
Husband: William HOCKING 
Wife: Philippa  ROBERTS
Date 13 Jun 1797

Dear Borneo,
If I am reading you correctly, you are adding a new set of Grandparents
to my line? The wedding date makes this couple the appropriate age
to be the parents of my gggg-grandfather John Hocking, stone cutter.
The names William and Phillipa work with the names of the children and
grandchildren of the prospective fit, and the occupation of William stone cutter
certainly fits too. Also the town! What a way to start the new year!
Thank you kindly, Borneo! What an amazing gift! It was so kind
of you to do the reserach! Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!
Sincerely,
Corney

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 11:02 GMT (UK)  »
There's also an extracted marriage for John and Kitty, but I don't want to spoil the fun  :P - Come back to me if you can't find it.

I don't know how familiar you are with familysearch but there are 2 sorts of records on there: extracted records and submitted records. Those who are submitted by LDS members (and I see there are some for your family) are sometimes less reliable than the extracted records in as far as you don't know how serious the searcher who has submitted the record is.

The extracted records are copies from the church registers.

Tanja  :)


Tanja,
I posted my last message before reading your last message.
There is NO WAY I could have got to sleep without doing
that search:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JN HOCKING     

Marriages:
     Spouse:     KITTY COURTIS    Family
     Marriage:     
08 AUG 1829      Ladock, Cornwall, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Two maiden names in one night. I am blown away.
I love that this woman is Kitty on her marriage
certificate and Kitty as an old woman, because I
know it's the same person (women died a lot in those
days because they kept pumping out babies ).
Still, it is odd that she is Kitty is on the marriage certificate and
on only the last census, yet it is Catherine and Christian
elsewhere. Yet the consistency of the children's names,
John's stone cutting and birthplace, etc., make me feel certain
this is my ancestor.
I appreciate the info about extracted, and how it differs from
submitted info. And I so appreciate all your help.
That said, it is 3am and I need to limp off to bed.
Thank you again for the amazing data!
Warm Regards,
Corny

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 10:38 GMT (UK)  »
My brain is back! St Austell seems the right registration district. I see the place Nathaniel is in 1871 is actually St Stephens in Brannel  :D  :D   

Tanja  :)
Tanja,

You are AMAZING!!!!! Holey Schnikees!!!
YOU FOUND THE MAIDEN NAME OF NATHANIEL'S MOM!!!!!
Woo hoo!!!!! I had originally been looking for "Ann,"
who came from an incorrect transcription of the 1861 census from a website called 1837.com. Later this evening I found another
trascript of the census at FreeCEN, which listed her
(in the same census) as Jane.
Now that I look at the photo copy I have of the 1861 census,
it does look more like Jane than Ann, and I note now that they
also wrongly transcribed Kate as "Kali."
I hadn't thought to go back and recheck marriage records
between Jane and William, as I was busy chasing John the
stonecutter and getting wonderful updates from you!
This is just wonderful!
I feel like I've been in a time machine!!!
My brain is growing foggy, as it's past 2am here, but I thank you most sincerely
for a most exciting ride through history!
I am off to sleep, but will be dreaming of Cornwall and
all these new ancestors!
 
Best Regards and Enormous Thanks!
Corny

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:57 GMT (UK)  »
Wonder if this is them in 1861?

St Enoder, Cornwall
RG9/1544 24 9
'Hobs'

Kitty Hocking, head, wid, 51, Farmer of 12 acres empl 1 man, b. Newlyn
Selina, dau, 14, Daughter at home, b. St Enoder
Edward, son, 11, scholar, b. do.

Tanja  :)

Tanja,
YES! It has to be them because the location is right along with
 Selina and Edward and the widow Hocking all at the right ages.  Plus
Kitty's birth place!
Selina isn't that common of a name, is it? It must be them!
Yippeee!!!! This is just amazing! Thank you!!!

Corny

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:35 GMT (UK)  »
Right, I was talking about John and his wife.

1851
HO107/1905 610 31
St Enoder, Cornwall
address: 'Hobs'

John Hocking, head, 43, Stone Cutter, b. Ladock
Christian, wife, 43, b. Newlyn
William, son, 16, b. St Enoder
Catherine, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Emma, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
John, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Selina, dau, 4, b. do.
Edward, son, 1, b. do.

Tanja  :)

Tanja,
This is so odd!
There is too much perfectly right for
it to just be a coincidence, yet something
is amok. 
They live in the right place (St Enoder) and John is still a
stone cutter, but he and his wife, who are both 30 in 1841
 have aged 13 years in only ten years
(they are both now listed as 43). And as you said, the wife
has changed from Catherine to Christian, but she is still the
same age as her husband.
William, who was 7 in 1841 is still about the
right age at 16. Also Catherine (age 2 in 1841) is the right age
in '51 at 12.  Little Philippa (5) and Amy (2m) are missing,
but they could have died. How sad!!!
The wife could be the same or not. Now I need to find
a birth certificate for William Hocking, son of John.
I love the way your new census info about '51 has John's
place of birth! Yay! And if Catherine and Christian are one in
the same, her birthplace is also valid!
Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Corney

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
I can see them in 1851 too (mother is suddenly named Christian!), with 4 under age 10. Would you like the details?
HO107/1905 610 31
Tanja  :)

Hi Again Tanja,
As Nathaniel wasn't born until 1856,
I assume you're talking about the1851 census for
the family of Nathaniel's father William,
 including Williams father John, the stone cutter?
(as found in the 1841 census)
I would LOVE more info on these folks!
Thank you again!
Corny

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Tanja,

Thank you so much for the info!
The date (1856) and name (Nathaniel Hocking) are right on,
although the district of  Nathaniel's birth shown
in the 1861 and 71 census is St. Stephens.
Is there a St. Austell district within St. Stephens?

I am new at navigating UK records, and need to gain
familiarity with the record system and geography
of Cornwall as well!

How would I go about ordering birth records for the document
you speak of? I feel sure it would yeild a maiden name for
the mother, who is listed as Ann in the 1861 Census, but as
 Jane in the 1871 and 1881 Census. There is a daughter called Jane Ann, so I think that is likely the mom's name, too, as her
district of birth and age remains the same in the different Census data, so surely same person!

Thank you again for your help, and I await any info you might
have about how I can order the records you spoke of!

Friendly Regards,
Corny

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:47 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Gougy,

Thank you for the 1871 Census records
for Nathaniel Hocking and family!
I was not able to access this family in the 1871
Census using the engines I have access to, so was
thrilled to get your message!
It was so kind of you to look up my family member!

This has been a wonderful evening for
info as after reading your message, I  located an 1841 census
with Nathaniel's father William as a boy aged 7, in St. Enoder,
with his parents John Hocking (age 30, stone cutter) and
mother Catherine, plus siblings Elizabeth (11),
Nathaniel [my Nathaniel's uncle] (9), Phillipa (5),
Catherine (2), Amy (2m).

What a difference a day makes!
Thank you again,
Corny


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