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Hi
Was there a rule or reason why surnames would be used as a middle name?
I'm thinking perhaps a mother would have a maiden name 'Norman' or 'Waters' and when married give their children their maiden name as a middle name.
The problem I have is matching records to the theory.
Regards
DCL

Hi,
Grasping at straws here.
I was wondering if anyone has knowledge of any old records that may have been kept after Stuarts closed their doors in Brompton Road, London or by Shermans, Gt Yarmouth pre 1900.
I have a Sherman photograph with an order number on the reverse and I am trying to trace the name of the person. I also have two photos from Stuart, 47 & 49 Brompton Road. Again, I am trying to identify them.
I am informed that the three photos are brothers, their names are below, of my grandfather Charles Robert Lawn - born Fritton 1879.
Stuart Bros were at 47 Brompton Rd from 1865 -1892 and their photo card is printed SHERMANS BROS, 47 BROMPTON ROAD.
The name above the door was changed to W & J Stuart in 1893 to 1911. That photo card is printed W & J Stuart, 47 BROMPTON ROAD.
They in turn were succeeded by Charles and Archibald Stuart who traded from the address from 1912 until 1925. Their photo card is printed Stuart 47 & 49 BROMPTON RD.
This is the same logo as the photo card showing two of the brothers. Both photos in Charles Roberts possession. So, logically, taken 1912-1925.
There lies a problem with the Stuart photos that in 1912 James Charles was aged 49 (Born 1863), Herbert George 45 (Born 1867), Thomas William 42 (Born 1870).
The photos are of much younger men, late teens - early 20's.
James and Herbert were in London 1881 & 1891 respectively. There are no records for them after those dates.
The other photo card is printed Sherman Gt Yarmouth (Not Pier Studio) with the order no 3984 on the reverse.
The business is referred to as ‘George Sherman & Sons’ from 1900 onwards.
I think this is another brick wall but would appreciate any suggestions in how to identify the brothers by name.
Regards,
DCL

Hello,
This is a bit complicated.
Do you know if there is any way to trace an order number on the back of a photograph to a name please.
I have a photograph with the name Sherman Gt Yarmouth and the order number of 3984 on the reverse. I do appreciate that the business is no longer there but was hoping that some records might have been saved somewhere.
The photo is of one of my Grandfathers (Charles Robert Lawn 1879-1950) brothers and I have come up against a brick wall in identifying him.
It was taken pre 1900 as records show that the business is referred to as ‘George Sherman & Sons’ from 1900 onwards.
I also have photos of two of his other brothers which were taken at Stuarts in London. Again a brick wall. They were all born in Fritton, Sfk. The brothers are named below.
Two of the photos (date not known) of the brothers were taken at Stuarts 47 & 49 Brompton Rd,
Stuart Bros were at 47 Brompton Rd from 1865 -1892. The photocard is printed on the front STUART BROS 47 BROMPTON ROAD.
The name above the door was changed to W & J Stuart in 1893 to 1911 (also premises at 159 High Road, Balham from 1904 to 1917). The front is printed W & J Stuart 47 BROMTON ROAD
They in turn were succeeded by Charles and Archibald Stuart who traded from the address from 1912 until 1925. This photocard is printed Stuart 47 & 49 BROMPTON ROAD.
This is the same logo as two of the brothers and were in Charles Roberts possession. So, logically, taken 1912-1925?
There were obviously new stocks of cards printed when the name changed.
The two Stuart photos were probably taken at the same time (Guessing they met up in London, but there are no records of the brothers location after 1881/91.
Given the dates 1911 onwards, it doesn’t make sense. In 1912 James Charles was aged 49, Herbert George 45, Thomas William 42.
The photos are of much younger men.
I hope you are able to make some sense out of this.
Many Thanks,
Dave Lawn.

Hello,
I am struggling to find the Baptism Record for Mary Charlotte Lawn, born 1820.
I have as yet, also been unable to find any details of her parents and am wondering if in fact she was actually baptised.
I have her burial record showing the date as 1823 in the parish of Somerleyton.
Many thanks for your assistance.

Hello Annette and others,
Not sure who this is going to but many thanks for your response.
Thomas Campbell Lawn, Died aged 7 yrs, was the brother of Clement Waters Lawn. Parents were John Lawn and Amy nee Campbell.
Charles Robert, my grandfather, was killed whilst riding his bike in Banbury. The registration district for BMD Kings Sutton is Brackley, hence the confusion. You are correct about death being registered in Banbury.Our family lived in Kings Sutton.
I too have the Cheveley connection and have found an Electoral Register for a Thomas William Lawn living in Norwich 1915.
Clement William, known as William, moved to Gorleston with his Mother, Caroline Maria and Charles Robert after the death of Clement Waters Lawn. They are all on the 1911 Census.
I wasn't sure about marriage of Caroline so thanks for that. Just need to find the paperwork now. I too have no further info on Herbert George, except that my father had the same name, and that there is a Herbert George Lawn in the Norwich Electoral Register for 1912. Not known if the same person.
I have photos of Martha, Charles Robert, and three of the brothers whom I am unable to identify.
They were taken at Yarmouth and London.
James Charles died in 1894, 31 yrs. Buried 27.7.1894 @ Southwold.
May I ask your connection, if any, to this particular line of the Lawn name?
I have a gedcom tree which is work in progress. It is a Microsoft Family Tree file, but can be uploaded to other programmes I am told.

Kinf Regards,

David