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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Monmouthshire wills
« on: Thursday 02 May 24 07:44 BST (UK)  »
Yes, the executors were from the same parish as Jane. The parish of Trevethin included (maybe still does?) the village of Garndiffaith. Thomas the bricklayer and Jane (it says) were both in that parish ("place" in the will, I seem to recall), but Thomas the other bricklayer (my ancestor, and Jane's brother-in-law) was miles away in 1851 and 1861 in the Tredegar area.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Monmouthshire wills
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 15:23 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. It led me to the will of Jane Gameson, 1855 - but that only thickens the mystery! Why didn't she choose her brother-in-law as executor, rather than another man, of the same name, from far away? I guess they were all related somehow, if you go back to the 1700s. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Monmouthshire wills
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 11:53 BST (UK)  »
Is there a comprehensive index anywhere of the wills I'd like to consult? The deaths were from the 1830s to the 1880s, all for the surname Gameson (sometimes spelled Gamson) and all the deaths were in Monmouthshire. I suspect the actual wills are scattered between Aberystwyth, Kew, maybe Ebbw Vale, and a range of other places, but I don't know how to find out.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Welsh in 1891 census
« on: Thursday 07 March 24 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for these replies. They seem to answer my question. The gist seems to be that people who wrote "Welsh" on the 1891 census could often speak English, but that Welsh was their preferred language.

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Family History Beginners Board / Welsh in 1891 census
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 09:04 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder what it means when the 1891 (and later) census gives "Welsh" under "languages spoken". I assume if it says 'English', it really means 'only English', and if it says 'both' it means the person could communicate satisfactorily in either English or Welsh. But when it only says 'Welsh', does it mean the person could speak only Welsh, or does it mean no more than that Welsh was the person's preferred language? Was there a formal meaning or use imposed on the registrars?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Brothers?
« on: Thursday 01 February 24 14:49 GMT (UK)  »
were they born in Panteg , Wales ?

I don't know - but their children were christened 1795-1805 in Merthyr Tydfil, Panteg, and Llangattock; and John was married in Panteg in 1794. Where they all were before that, non one seems to know.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Brothers?
« on: Thursday 01 February 24 08:27 GMT (UK)  »
There is also this burial which would put birth c1770

1834 May 13, GAMSON John age 64 Burial, of Varteg, Parish of Trevethin at Aberystruth St Peter

Which could tie in with this marriage

1794 Feb 9, JONES Mary - GAMSON John, Marriage Panteg St Mary
Both of parish, both signed X.  Witnesses Benjm Ball signed  - Eliz. Jones X

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/PanTeague

Check http://www.mongenes.org.uk/Home.html  if not already, maybe of help

Cas
Thank you. Good thinking. I already have this John (maybe 1771-1834) as he is my direct ancestor through my father's mother (Alice Gameson). (The spellings Gamson/Gameson wandered between the same family and even the same person.) He MIGHT be the son of the elusive James, who (likewise from his death record) was born in 1745. I shall explore this line of thought further.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Brothers?
« on: Wednesday 31 January 24 20:19 GMT (UK)  »
Robert and Sarah Gamson had three sons baptised in Whitchurch, Shropshire

John 11 November 1753
William 10 December 1755
James 6 March 1763

That's interesting. I should have added that James is the only one we know anything else about at all. He died aged 91 in 1836, thus born ca 1745. We suspect he married in the 1760s, that his wife died, and that he then re-married and continued begetting children. There is no record of a James Gameson or Gamson (the spelling was used interchangeably and apparently the pronunciation used to be [gamson]) being born/christened in 1744-6 anywhere in Britain. None of them survived even into the 1841 census. Their wives may, of course, have been a deal older or younger than them, and if the men came from England, it is possible they married local girls after moving to Wales, giving no idea of where the men were born and grew up.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Brothers?
« on: Wednesday 31 January 24 20:13 GMT (UK)  »
Did they all die before the 1851 census

Yes.
:-(

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