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Yes some old family photos here from that studio.

Missed the earlier thread discussion and went through contacting V&A and eventually finding the bit online about the greenhouses

Some of the ships seem to have gone between Scotland and Canada, could the second word be Quebec?

First word seems to be an abbreviation alright but maybe Di something

1911 census Elizabeth was maybe still at the kilrush poorhouse.

Can’t find E. F. but L. F. at the following address here Could be L for Lizzie. There’s also a 5 year old B. F. could be the child Bridget mentioned in this thread.

If L. F. is Elizabeth the birthplace is given as Clare. Age 29 maybe close enough, you can check all widows in Clare about that age and this is maybe the most likely match.

Pretty interesting, I’ve an ancestor Joseph McCarthy who was recorded as Joseph McCaghley for his first marriage in 1853 to Eliza Larmour.

Civil marriage record

In this case the marriage was at the registry office.

It’s the earliest record I’ve got, I haven’t been able to link it to other records, maybe his father Thomas wasn’t recorded in the Tithe Applotment Books but maybe I’ve been looking for the wrong surname McCarthy when it could be some McAuley variant.

Working to trace some family links for Martha Ann Owens (died 1901 @ 7 Vistula St Belfast, daughter Martha Owens present) and I think I need some help trying to put it together from the records.

In particular, the burial record via RootsIreland shows the grave was owned by a Samuel Nelson, and I would like to know how he was related. The Belfast City Cemeteries records show the Occupants of grave D2 337, City Cemetery include Martha Owens (died 1901 aged 74), probably that Samuel Nelson (died 1913 aged 69), his wife Annie Nelson (died 1926 aged 84) and their son William Nelson (died 1904 aged 28). William when he died (civil record link) lived with his parents at 6 Twickenham St and was a French Polisher, he was married. Probably this William Nelson at 21 Woodford St with wife Letitia Nelson in 1901 census, birthplace Scotland (explains why I couldn't find his Irish civil birth). Parents Samuel and Annie (and family) as expected at 6 Twickenham St in 1901 census. Civil birth records for the births of Samuel and Annie's other children: Alexander (1873), David (1880) and Annie (1878), but also Samuel (1868) and Agnes (1870). Samuel Nelson, a chairmaker from 25 Carrick Hill, father Samuel Nelson a Draper, married Annie McDowell in 1867. Says full age so probably born before 1846.

In terms of Martha Ann Owens, she married widower James Owens in 1856 (cowkeeper from 120 Millfield, father Philip Owens a farmer), recorded as a widow from Millfield, father David Drennan a Farmer. (their grandson was christened David Drennan Owens - link, actually this is the main connection I have for Martha Ann and James' son being James Owens the father of David Drennan Owens, but that's not the focus of this post). The James Owens that Martha Ann married died in 1899 (lived 40 Vistula St, daughter Martha Owens present) and was buried in public ground.

Martha Ann Drennan's first marriage was just two years earlier in 1854 (link) at age 36 (probably the most reliable age we have) to a Samuel Nelson (42, bachelor, salesman, Sidney St Belfast, father Samuel Nelson, Woolen Draper). This was at the registrar's office.

One possibility I would have considered would be the Samuel Nelson buried with Martha Ann is a nephew of her first husband (so she would have been his aunt then). Certainly looks like about a generation between the two. (Martha Ann isn't likely as close in age as the grave record makes it seem - she was probably older per the 1854 marriage record). The issue is that the younger Samuel Nelson is recorded with his father's name as Samuel Nelson, and as a draper too.

I'd be interested in any other suggestions or pointers here.