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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 08:14 BST (UK)  »
Very useful. Interesting that Boyd uses the original Norman spelling of Jane's name with two Ts -  Attcliffe (atte-Cliffe). I hadn't seen it spelled this way before and reinforces what Forebears suggest, that the name is predominently found in France.

Thanks Arthurk.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 15:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi 12tootsi34.

I've had a response from Lambeth Palace and the Faculty Office Marriage Bonds for the period January 1695 to November 1698 are all missing from their records! Just my luck as the date I was interested in was July 1696. All through my researches though I have often been stone walled by records being missing, lost in the Great Fire or destroyed by "enemy air action" so I really should be used to disappointments like this by now.

Thanks for the tip though. Knowing what the Palace does have may be useful in future.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Great Fire of London
« on: Friday 19 April 24 20:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bookbox. Combined or separate registers didn't occur to me. Might be worth me going through  those churches that the St Sepulchre Vicar may have combined with as I have someone who I know was born in the parish but doesn't appear anywhere in the St Sepulchre registers.

I found an article on The Great Fire from 2016 in Church Times you might find interesting:-

During the rebuilding process, several parish churches erected temporary structures which they called “tabernacles”. All Hallows the More established the first of these in August 1669, financed in part by the sale of the church’s melted lead and bell metal. The term’s Nonconform­ist associations developed only in the 18th century.

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2016/2-september/features/features/alight-by-the-hand-of-god

Shame they didn't say which churches took this option!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Great Fire of London
« on: Friday 19 April 24 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Makes sense. Thanks Colin.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Friday 19 April 24 15:01 BST (UK)  »
PS: Thanks 12tootsi34. I've contacted Lambeth Palace Library to see if they might have a copy of the associated Marriage Bond. Their research guide suggests that they might. If so, it could show John's occupation and his Bond guarantor - hopefully was a family member!

Looking forward to their response.

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Family History Beginners Board / Great Fire of London
« on: Friday 19 April 24 12:14 BST (UK)  »
Looking at some London parish register indices I am puzzled how they show some (although not as many as usual, admittedly) for birth, deaths and marriages that took place after the church had burned down and years before it was rebuilt.

Does anyone have any knowledge on how vicars managed to do this? Did they perform ceremonies in the open air? Did they scrounge usage of a surviving church but recorded it as if the ceremony took place in their own parish?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Friday 19 April 24 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to all who responded to my question. Eureka! I now have a copy of the marriage allegation that John made on 14th July 1696 which shows that both her and Jane were from the same parish (St Sepulchure without Newgate). This was new information and delighted me as this was my families parish up until at least 1775. It also showed their respective ages at 22 and 23 respectively so I now know when they were born - another piece of the jigsaw I did not have before.

Once again, very many thanks for all your kind help and advice.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 17:01 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Arthurk. Another string to my bow to follow up.

Grateful to you for taking the time to respond. I've been struggling to get past 1696 for some years now courtesy of John's 16th Century family records being destroyed in the Great Fire and Jane's surname drawing a blank in all the genealogy sites I have looked at.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage Allegations, Bonds & Licences
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 06:47 BST (UK)  »
Very many thanks Daisy. Typical that I should miss the one jurisdiction that I actually needed! I'll pay a visit to the LMA.  ;)

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