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Wexford / Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« on: Thursday 20 March 25 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
Again thank you, I find the search for ancestors an addictive quest of endless clues! Bit by bit we piece things together but it's the help of others who've been on a similar journey who can really unlock things.

As a newbie I haven't yet worked out how to reply to you individually some replies as follows:
Wexflyer: Joseph Frizell and Mary Nichols (mispelt Nicholls) I have triangulated various records and sources including land deed references and birth records to establish this is the correct Mary, including unique documentary ties to the Nichols family, family names including Gustavus and the double barrelling go Robert Nichols-Frizell's surname.
There is a reference to Cornelia Frizell's will on another Roots 'Frizell' chat (Summerhill included in) but it looks like the person who had a copy may be deceased. I recognise it may have been destroyed in the 1922 fire but would be interested to find out if there may be a way to double check or if anyone else may have a copy.
Palatine connection I have only recently discovered this tragic period in Irish history, my mother believing the family to be of Irish descent, if they were indeed Palatine I would be grateful for any suggestions of where I might find them on shipping list, all of the ones I've checked so far don't list any variant of Frizell apart from the Adam Fissel on the Southwell estate in Rathkeale. One of the sermons from a priest of St Mary's includes that the Palatine's settled on Able Ram's lands were shipwrecked off the coast. Is there somewhere that a shipwreck of the coast of Wexford for 1709/1710 would be listed?
Thank you for the articles about the Hartnick's/Ram estate I have these and a growing collection of histories including the Old Ross the town that never was. Interesting it is this book that plants the seed of doubt about them being 100% Palatine as little is known about their early 1709/10 origins compared to other families in the book. Could they have been Huguenots even? Any ideas about where to look next would be appreciated.
Thank you Summerhill for the suggestions I will look to follow them up re parish registers etc.
Many thanks again!

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Wexford / Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« on: Wednesday 19 March 25 15:42 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone appreciate all of your replies.

Apologies, the timeframe I'm looking at is between 1709 and my 3 x gt. grandad Robert Nicolls Frizell born 1796. His grandparents were Joseph Frizell and Mary Nicolls married in 1765 (Ossory), Joseph being the older son of Joseph Frizell and Elizabeth Elmes. Looking at both ends of the century I'm trying to fully establish that these Frizell's who were given settlement lands on Able Ram's land in Bantry townland, Dunamore/Goldenstown, Old Ross were Palatine refugees (can there be another explanation - were they already farmers in this area prior to 1709?). If they were part of the immigration could Joseph (married to Elizabeth Elmes) be the brother of William Frizell grandather of the Castlekevin Frizells? Similarly is Cornelia Frizell b.1690 married to William Elmes Joseph's sister? Cornelia made a will in 1769 how do I get hold of a copy? I've matched up the later Frizells on the Ferns index to a Frizell line in the same area and would be grateful for any help trying to access copies of baptisms for St Mary's Old Ross or any thoughts of where to look next. The Nicolls family were a military family with extensive ties to Duncannon Fort and were also landholders nearby. I suspect Joseph & Mary Nicholl's son may have been in the military (Robert's father) he died young from what I can tell hopefully not a victim of Scullabogue.

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Thank you everyone appreciate all of your replies.

Apologies, the timeframe I'm looking at is between 1709 and my 3 x gt. grandad Robert Nicolls Frizell born 1796. His grandparents were Joseph Frizell and Mary Nicolls married in 1765 (Ossory), Joseph being the older son of Joseph Frizell and Elizabeth Elmes. Looking at both ends of the century I'm trying to fully establish that these Frizell's who were given settlement lands on Able Ram's land in Bantry townland, Dunamore/Goldenstown, Old Ross were Palatine refugees (can there be another explanation - were they already farmers in this area prior to 1709?). If they were part of the immigration could Joseph (married to Elizabeth Elmes) be the brother of William Frizell grandather of the Castlekevin Frizells? Similarly is Cornelia Frizell b.1690 married to William Elmes Joseph's sister? Cornelia made a will in 1769 how do I get hold of a copy? I've matched up the later Frizells on the Ferns index to a Frizell line in the same area and would be grateful for any help trying to access copies of baptisms for St Mary's Old Ross or any thoughts of where to look next. The Nicolls family were a military family with extensive ties to Duncannon Fort and were also landholders nearby. I suspect Joseph & Mary Nicholl's son may have been in the military (Robert's father) he died young from what I can tell hopefully not a victim of Scullabogue.

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Wexford / New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« on: Monday 17 March 25 17:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I've been researching the Frizell line of my family who it appears from the land deeds of the area were part of the 1709 Palatine settlement. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who can help with sourcing the parish records for St Marys Church of Ireland Old Ross. I have tried contacting the Rector there but unfortunately haven't had a reply. It also looks like the church is no longer used. I would also like to contact Roots member Summerhill https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=505146.0 about any other local resources that may help locate birth/death entries etc.

Any help gratefully received  :)

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