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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: FTDNA customer support - where is it?
« on: Friday 12 December 14 16:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks David for your reply. I tried to send them an email again yesterday but still haven't heard from them. I've given up.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / FTDNA customer support - where is it?
« on: Thursday 11 December 14 20:04 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to order a DNA test upgrade at FTDNA but they keep adding items to the checkout process which I don't want. They don't provide any mechaism to remove those unwanted items. I've sent emails to them which have never been answered. Has anyone had any dealings with their customer support, and where is it?

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Cork / Re: Cotters of Fermoy
« on: Saturday 14 September 13 07:45 BST (UK)  »
To Rathmore & loogie14 - thank you for your interest & advice.

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Cork / Cotters of Fermoy
« on: Tuesday 10 September 13 12:19 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the ancestors of a Michael Cotter who was born in or near Fermoy in 1809. I understand that no records exist for Fermoy prior to 1827 which makes my search perhaps impossible. Are there any other users who have faced the same problem relating to Fermoy records, and is there a way around this brick wall?

Thank you for any assistance offered.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Jones Family of Bethesda
« on: Tuesday 07 August 12 06:27 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Heather,

The 1801 baptism is most likely the correct one as Edward Lewis was born in 1801. His stated birth place, Holyhead, may have been a reference to the nearest large town, both Holyhead and Rhoscolyn are on the Holy Island at the tip of Anglesey.

I'm basing the 1801 birth date on the information which he provided in the 1841 and 1851 census responses, but this does conflict with his death in 1875 where it is said he was 76 years of age, giving him a DOB in 1799 (more confusion - my head hurts).

His address in 1851 is Llidiart-Y-Gwenyn, Llanllechid, which doesn't appear to exist nowadays. I looked for it on Google Earth and ended up in the mddle of a harware store's yard at the end of Cilfodan Street, Bethesda. Perhaps that hamlet was removed to make space for the hardware store.

The Jones's may also have lived there at times. In the 1871 and 1891 census responses, J.O. Jones and family were living at 56 Cilfodan Street, Bethesda, but Cilfodan Street nowadays appears to have no more that three or so houses. If the street numbers did run up to the 50's, then that would have placed them in the middle of the same hardware store's storage yard.

Thanks for the Margaret Roberts information. I read that the Ogwen River, which flows through Bethesda, also flows through Llandegai. I wonder if Edward Lewis went courting in a row boat.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Jones Family of Bethesda
« on: Tuesday 07 August 12 05:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Mabel, I too had the same problem when searching. It appears that Llanllechid was the predominate name for the area early in the 1800s, and Bethesda was mentioned as a "sanitary district" of Llanlechid.

Later in the 1800s, Bethesda appears to become more predominate. Perhaps the population there grew faster and it developed in its own right compared to the remainder of Llanllechid.

Thank you for the information on the Edward Jones - Elizabeth Williams wedding. I've been informed that their son Emlyn Jones led or managed a Welsh male choir tour of the USA in the 1930s. My mother, his cousin, was hoping that he would bring his choir on a tour of Australia, but unfortunately Mr. Hitler had other plans at the time. He died sometime after WWII of TB unfortunately.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Jones Family of Bethesda
« on: Tuesday 07 August 12 05:29 BST (UK)  »
Thank you KGarrard (p.1) for clarification on civil mariages (it's a pity that some of them end up being less than "civil").

Am I correct in understanding that all marriages not conducted within the Church of England in the 1860s, for example weddings conducted within the Methodist, Baptist, and other independent congregations were registered as "civil weddings?"

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Jones Family of Bethesda
« on: Monday 06 August 12 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Heather,

You are an angel, thank you.

Your information on the wedding of John Jones and Mary Lewis raises a question, why a civil marriage? My grandfather, John Owen Jones was a committed Wesleyan Methodist, I assume that his father, John Jones who married Mary Lewis, was the same. Perhaps she was from another denomination so they couldn't have a church wedding? 

Family lore has it that Mary's father objected to his daughter marrying John Jones as he considered that she deserved better. According to this story, Mary Lewis was from a wealthy family who made their fortune as boat-builders in Anglesey. If this was the case, why on earth did they move to Bethesda?

The more you learn in this family history business, the more questions arise.

Thanks again Heather, your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Jones Family of Bethesda
« on: Monday 06 August 12 03:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Soundgrounder1,

I have found a Registrars Office in the Bangor Town Hall, is that who I should write to? Please excuse my ignorance, I haven't had any dealings wih BD&M Registrars in the UK.

You post indicates that the Registrar will confirm his address, is that also correct? My experience here in Australia is that you quote the registration number only, and the local Registrar's Office or transcription services do no vetting of the record, they just send you what you ordered on a "take it or leave it" basis. It sounds good that they will do some basic checks to confirm that the record ordered matches expectations. Who would have imagined that, Civil Servants actually providing service.

Thank you.

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