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World War Two / Re: RAF - David Herbert Smith
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 17:05 BST (UK)  »
But if there's only one David Herbert Smith you could guess that the service number shown in  the Index is likely to be his 

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World War Two / Re: RAF - David Herbert Smith
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 16:58 BST (UK)  »
There is an index to RAF servicemen and women on the National Archives website. It consists of name and service number only and most but not all who served are included. You need to browse or search to find which file you need, download it (pdf)  and then browse the file to hopefully find the person you are searching for. It's free but I think you need to register with the website to download the files. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2132

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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 14:28 BST (UK)  »
is there any way of reporting a useless digital copy?
Mine is mis-aligned, so Father may or may not have a first name, and I cannot see mother's first name at all.

She's ann at marriage (1859) , unseen on birth certificate(1860) , Lydia at birth address(1861) and Ann Eccleston (middle name) at 1864 baptism...

Yes, you can go on the website and report it. They will give you a refund and you can then buy the pdf instead. The digital image service Is fully automated, which is why it is so fast and so cheap. The pdf service needs someone to manually produce the copy so it takes longer and costs more, but you should then receive a perfect copy.

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England / Re: Registrar Office marriages post 1850
« on: Saturday 03 February 24 15:52 GMT (UK)  »
Does not the local BMD indexes tell you whether the marrige was in a recognised church? If not a recognised church, it says Civil Marriage or Registrar attended. See https://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php.
Ray
That is correct, as I said in my reply above, but unfortunately not all register offices have had their records indexed in this way. Check ukbmd.org.uk to see which counties have at least some indexes.

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England / Re: Registrar Office marriages post 1850
« on: Friday 02 February 24 23:35 GMT (UK)  »
The marriage registers found in record offices and online are those which were held by churches, which usually deposit their registers with the record office when full. The copies of these registers, and the marriage registers used by the register office, are kept by the register office for the purpose of producing copy certificates, so any marriages which took place at a register office or e.g. at a nonconformist church which did not have its own register will not be available at a records office or online.
 
If the marriage registers at a register office have been indexed e.g. by a local family history society then you should be able to find out at which church a marriage took place. The exception is if it was registered in the registrar's marriage book, in which case it could have been either a register office wedding or a marriage in e.g. a non.confirmist church  Most of these indexes can be found at ukbmd.org.uk.

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Derbyshire / Re: Betty and Judas Garrat of Longston, buried Fairfield, Buxton 1790?
« on: Friday 09 September 22 17:09 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Chris. I'll try the John Rylands Library; but I'm leaning towards my theory that the gravestone actually belongs elsewhere.

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Derbyshire / Re: Betty and Judas Garrat of Longston, buried Fairfield, Buxton 1790?
« on: Friday 09 September 22 13:13 BST (UK)  »
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rtp/ 


Quote.    'We believe the Chapel did NOT have a graveyard.

    Note: any church within an urban environment may have had its graveyard closed after the Burial Act of 1853. Any new church built after that is unlikely to have had a graveyard at all.'

Thank you, that's a useful website which I hadn't previously seen. However, the comment about the chapel not having a graveyard refers to the later Methodist Chapel a few hundred yards away, and not the one I am interested in which was in Waterswallows Road. I understand that this later Methodist Chapel closed two years ago, its congregation having dwindled to just eleven members.

Edit: a link on that page does refer to the Methodist Chapel I am researching and that page also states 'We believe the Chapel did NOT have a graveyard.'
I can only conclude that the gravestone could have been moved there from another location.

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Derbyshire / Re: Betty and Judas Garrat of Longston, buried Fairfield, Buxton 1790?
« on: Friday 09 September 22 13:06 BST (UK)  »
Have you tried to make contact with the chapel, to ask them the question?

Sorry for not making it clear, according to the Wikipedia article I quoted, the Methodist chapel closed in 1886 and from 1887 the building was used as the Fairfield Local Board Town Hall.

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Derbyshire / Betty and Judas Garrat of Longston, buried Fairfield, Buxton 1790?
« on: Thursday 08 September 22 21:39 BST (UK)  »
A friend would like me to discover whether there is any truth in the story that the former Methodist Church in Waterswallows Road, Fairfield, Buxton (labelled "Fairfield Church Hall" on Google Maps) once had a burial ground. He has a photo of a gravestone which he believes was taken in the grounds behind this building. The inscription on the stone is:

Betty Garrat, daughter of William and Judah Garrat
departed this life March 28th 1790 aged 20 weeks
Also Judas? Garrat of Longston
Died 26 December 1790 aged 31


I haven't made any progress other than finding the Wikipedia entry which says:
John Wesley visited Fairfield in September 1784. Fairfield Wesleyan chapel on Waterswallows Road was built in 1868, replacing the first Methodist chapel which was erected in 1844. After 1887 it was used as the Fairfield Local Board Town Hall.

and the My Wesleyan Methodists website which says:
"The small chapel illustrated here was the second Wesleyan chapel in Fairfield and seated 216. It was replaced by a larger chapel designed by John Mills of Derby in 1886."

I wonder if the date of 1886 is a typo and they mean 1868? But the Wesleyan Methodist website implies that the present building was the third chapel on the site, and there was a chapel prior to the one built in 1844. I cannot find any information about whether there was a burial ground there, and where to find any records for the chapel.

I'm not familiar with Derbyshire research so would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.

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