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Renfrewshire / Re: Photo of grave in Hawkhead Cemetery
« on: Saturday 07 June 14 11:56 BST (UK)  »
    M.R.
             I have the death certificate and it says (clearly in typed letters) that he died at Hawkhead Asylum, Paisley.     He did have an infectious disease.     

Hawkhead Asylum, Paisley actually existed in both Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire. The place was built by Govan Parochial Board in the 1890's and became a part of Glasgow in 1912 when Govan was annexed by the City although Govan Parochial Board continued to be responsible for the management of the place. Around 1914 the Asylum encroached further in Renfrewshire by acquiring Hawkhead House itself.
The County and Registration District Boundaries actually ran through the middle of the place and if memory serves me right there was one ward where which Registration District was used could be determined by which bed the patient died in. Some wards were wholly in Renfrewshire others in Glasgow. The place was massive with its own farms, a 9 hole golf course and several large woodwork and metalwork workshops.

             Hawkhead Asylum in Paisley became a Glasgow Corporation hospital in 1930 and joined the NHS in 1948.      Leverendale Hospital was adopted in place of Hawkhead Asylum, Paisley in 1964.

In the 1930's there was a massive reorganisation of local authorities in Scotland - Glasgow became a County in its own right and a number of smaller historical administrative bodies were done away with  - the name Leverndale Hospital was adopted in the 1960's (although all of the bedding and utensils used still bore the old logo of a Hawk's head)

             I didn't know that Hawkhead Asylum was for infectious diseases.     My ancestor was certified insane on admission.      He was said to be insane, suicidal and dangerous.
         

Hawkhead Asylum was not an infectious diseases hospital (confusingly Hawkhead Hospital in Paisley was - it was a purpose built hospital constructed on farmland in the 1920's or 1930's).
Paisley originally had two Mental Health Centres one was known as Paisley North, around the Sneddon area (just north of the modern town centre) and Paisley South which was in Craw Road. Both were later closed in favour of Dykebar Hospital although the Craw Road premises continued as an annex of the Royal Alexandra.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Photo of grave in Hawkhead Cemetery
« on: Friday 06 June 14 17:28 BST (UK)  »
    Caroline,
                   I have no certain proof that he was buried there, but I think his closest relatives were so ashamed of him being there that they hushed up his stay in Hawkhead.     He was my mother's grandfather and whenever my mother asked her mother about what happened to him, she always just said, "We don't talk about that."      My mother knew there was a mystery there but still didn't know the truth when she died in 2005.     It was only in 2010 that my sister and I discovered his death cert and saw where he'd been during the missing years from 1904 onwards.

                   His wife lived in Glasgow then in Gourock much of the time he was in Hawkhead but died at Manchester in 1949.     I think there is a strong possibility that he is at Hawkhead but, as I say, there is no certain proof.

Hawkhead hospital in Paisley ( near the cemetery) was an infectious diseases hospital. Reading between the lines and given the stigma attached to mental illness it is more likely that your man was admitted to Hawkhead Hospital in Glasgow (This hospital, a fraction of its previous size, has been known as Leverndale for a number of years). Unfortunately this makes the link with Hawkhead Cemetery a bit more tenuous. Although only a few miles from the Paisley Cemetery it is in a different County area and there is no "natural" connection between them.

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Yes the Gedcom file is transferrable

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The Lighter Side / Re: BBC WDYTYA Series 10 Episode #9: Marrianne Faithful
« on: Tuesday 29 October 13 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
Maybe they should change this to Who Do You Think You Are Kidding?

It is not something I think I will bother to watch again which is a great pity. Like so much they start well eventually become lazy in their production and veer off track.

 

Pretty much agree. It was once a "must watch" but now has gotten to the stage of I'll watch if there is absolutely nothing else on.

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The Lighter Side / Re: BBC WDYTYA Series 10 Episode #9 Marrianne Faithful
« on: Thursday 19 September 13 19:10 BST (UK)  »
I haven't watched many episodes in the current series but if the MF episode was a measure of the other shows I think I'd rather go and watch some paint dry. :-X

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: The Fate of the Ancient Brits
« on: Friday 31 May 13 12:36 BST (UK)  »
Must admit you had me checking the TV schedule just in case it had swapped over.   :D

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: The Fate of the Ancient Brits
« on: Thursday 30 May 13 17:10 BST (UK)  »
Much as I like Timeteam, Robinson ruins the prog's for me. How on earth anybody thought this individual is suited to front an archiology or history programme is quite beyond belief.
The BBC have had a very bad press of late, corruption, scandal & nepotism etc', but square holes & round pegs needs a good looking at. There are 50 odd million people in the UK, is this the best they can come up with, same old, same old faces.

Skoosh.

Whats it got to do with the BBC - Time Team et al is a C4 production

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Technical Help / Re: IE 10
« on: Thursday 30 May 13 15:26 BST (UK)  »
If you right click on an empty space on the top bar of IE10 a menu should appear tick command bar and your icons should be back

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Lanarkshire / Re: Whitehall Veneer Saw Mill, Glasgow
« on: Tuesday 28 May 13 21:01 BST (UK)  »
If you could get hold of a copy of this book there may be some images or further inforamtion

ANDERSTON THEN & NOW ..... A CONCISE HISTORY OF A GLASGOW DISTRICT
By John N. Cooper, published 2004.


or if you use facebook there is a page/group "Old Anderston" where they display several old photographs of the area.

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