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The Common Room / Re: BUFS
« on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Whittenbury,

I do not know any of the details for which you are asking, however, my aunt might.

Chilibear.

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Certificates have arrived and open up more questions than they solve.

Birth certificate of Charles Blakey: born at 7 half minutes past 4 o'clock on 15 Jan 1845 (therefore the younger twin); no father's name given; mother: Mary Blakey, Horsley Woodhouse.

I am guessing that this makes Charles illegitimate - two reasons: there is no father and Mary does not have a maiden name, only Blakey.

Marriage certificate of Charles Blakey and Elizabeth Mitchell: married on 7 Mar 1870; both full age and living at Horsley Woodhouse; he was a bachelor and a nail maker, his father was Charles Hurst?, a labourer; she was a spinster and  fwk, her father was Zephariah Buon?, a coalminer.  The witnesses were Hugh Blakey and Ann Wood.

I do not think that it says Charles Hugh; the surname is normally given and Blakey is not there.  Secondly the second name (Hugh/ Hurst) does not have any letters below the line, therefore cannot be Hugh.  If they were illegitimate, it would make sense that they have their mother's name, not their father's.

It also looks like I have a problem with Elizabeth Mitchell, whose father's surname is not Mitchell, so may be she is illegitimate as well!  I can find an Elizabeth Mitchell of the right age in Horsley Woodhouse on the 1851 and 1861 census's (Class: HO107; Piece: 2144; Folio 308, p. 9 and Class: RG9; Piece: 2508; Folio 99, p. 20) who is the daughter-in-law of Samuel and Elizabeth Wood (I assume that means step-daughter).  They also have a daughter Ann Wood; she might be the witness.

The death certificate for Mary Blakey (1852 (A-M-J); Belper, Derbyshire; Vol. 7b; p. 251) states that she died on 15 May 1852 at Horsley Woodhouse, aged 38 years.  She was the wife of William Blakey, labourer.  The informant was a Sarah Ottewell.  So it does not seem that this is the same Mary Blakey and I cannot find another who died between 1851 and 1861 in Horsley Woodhouse on Ancestry.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Chilibear.

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Derbyshire Completed Look ups / Re: Blakey family on 1851 census
« on: Monday 17 December 07 22:35 GMT (UK)  »
Certificates have arrived and open up more questions than they solve.

Birth certificate of Charles Blakey: born at 7 half minutes past 4 o'clock on 15 Jan 1845 (therefore the younger twin); no father's name given; mother: Mary Blakey, Horsley Woodhouse.

I am guessing that this makes Charles illegitimate - two reasons: there is no father and Mary does not have a maiden name, only Blakey.

Marriage certificate of Charles Blakey and Elizabeth Mitchell: married on 7 Mar 1870; both full age and living at Horsley Woodhouse; he was a bachelor and a nail maker, his father was Charles Hurst?, a labourer; she was a spinster and  fwk, her father was Zephariah Buon?, a coalminer.  The witnesses were Hugh Blakey and Ann Wood.

Pincel: I do not think that it says Charles Hugh; the surname is normally given and Blakey is not there.  Secondly the second name (Hugh/ Hurst) does not have any letters below the line, therefore cannot be Hugh.  If they were illegitimate, it would make sense that they have their mother's name, not their father's.

It also looks like I have a problem with Elizabeth Mitchell, whose father's surname is not Mitchell, so may be she is illegitimate as well!  I can find an Elizabeth Mitchell of the right age in Horsley Woodhouse on the 1851 and 1861 census's (Class: HO107; Piece: 2144; Folio 308, p. 9 and Class: RG9; Piece: 2508; Folio 99, p. 20) who is the daughter-in-law of Samuel and Elizabeth Wood (I assume that means step-daughter).  They also have a daughter Ann Wood; she might be the witness.

The death certificate for Mary Blakey (1852 (A-M-J); Belper, Derbyshire; Vol. 7b; p. 251) states that she died on 15 May 1852 at Horsley Woodhouse, aged 38 years.  She was the wife of William Blakey, labourer.  The informant was a Sarah Ottewell.  So it does not seem that this is the same Mary Blakey and I cannot find another who died between 1851 and 1861 in Horsley Woodhouse on Ancestry.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Chilibear.

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Bitton Prison - SLATER
« on: Wednesday 12 December 07 17:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you,

I shall try that,

Chilibear.

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Bitton Prison - SLATER
« on: Tuesday 11 December 07 20:40 GMT (UK)  »
It seems that it is not a prison, but Kingswood Reformatory School.

Why would someone from Derbyshire have ended up here?
Are there records archived somewhere?

Chilibear

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The Common Room / Re: BUFS
« on: Tuesday 11 December 07 20:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Valda,

I shall have to ask my aunt if it sounds familiar.

Do they have archives somewhere?

Chilibear

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Berry family, Ratley
« on: Tuesday 11 December 07 20:24 GMT (UK)  »
Any idea where Ecclesall Bierlow is?  Its a great name!

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Berry family, Ratley
« on: Tuesday 11 December 07 20:08 GMT (UK)  »
I should have never found that census!  It does look possible.

I understand that David Slater used to disappear quite often from the family home, leaving them in great poverty, and would reappear later.  I think his families ran in parallel rather than consecutively!

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The Common Room / Re: BUFS
« on: Tuesday 11 December 07 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Valda,

My great grandfather is accused of many things, but so far being on the stage is not one of them!

So not certain, but given his colorful life and ability to disappear it is not impossible.

Chilibear

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