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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Monday 17 October 22 00:01 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if Herodias would have been noted in the 1871 census as head of house, if Joel was just working away?

To put my supposition to the test I think my only option is to contact the Woods descendants and see if a Sidney Young connection appears in their DNA results.

Or I suppose they might have family knowledge.




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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Sunday 16 October 22 23:17 BST (UK)  »
At the moment completely supposition based on the fact he was lodging with them in 1861?   

But I was intrigued to see that Joel Woods & Herodias Woods are living at separate addresses in the 1871 census. 


I have no DNA link yet to the Woods family - I will have to ask one of the descendants of Florence Woods to do an Ancestry DNA test. And see if they have a connection to Sidney Young & Wiltshire. I have located the descendants  but not made contact yet.

Also intriguingly, as I wrote earlier my Dad has a strong DNA connection to the Finch family & The Ruffhead family - and William John Woods marries Elizabeth Rebecca Finch - she is descended from Finch (father), Ruffhead (mother) & Ross (grandmother).




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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Sunday 16 October 22 22:12 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I have located my Dads living half brothers & sisters, and traced their birth mothers family back 4 generations with DNA also confirming certificates. They are farmers from Higham Ferrers, Rushden.

My Dads birth mother was married to a man who had gone to Canada - whilst he was away my Dad was conceived - there is a record of the divorce on the National Archive - unfortunately, the archive doesn’t disclose who my Dads birth father was.

My Dads informal adoption records also show nothing.

I found my Dads half brother who had traced their mother in the 1970s - but although he asked about who his father was - his mother would not divulge anything.


 

 

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Sunday 16 October 22 12:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again.

I see what you mean about the Bastardly Order - there won’t be one in this case - if my hypothesis about Sidney Young & Herodias Woods is correct.

The children of William Woods are Cyril Woods, Melbourne Woods & Florence Woods - I have their Wills but nothing of interest is mentioned.

I have found the boys were Conscientious Objectors - & worked in the leather trade but not much more.

Yes I agree -  Melbourne Victor Woods did not marry.

Cyril Woods married & had no children.

Florence did marry & had children - DNA of a descendant might be my only hope of ruling my theory in or out.

Unfortunately, we don’t know who my Dads father was or his grandfather - my hypothesis is William Woods son of Sidney Young & Herodias Woods.

We know who my Dads birth mother is but not his birth father - it’s marked as Unknown - born in Northampton Workhouse.

My Dads birth mother had 5 children - with multiple fathers from what I have discovered.


Using Ancestry DNA with my fathers DNA - I am fairly certain that Sidney Young must be my fathers Great Grandfather.

Sidney Young must have had a child with someone other than his wife (who is also from Wiltshire) who my Dad is descended from.

We have lots of DNA links to descendants of Sidney Young & also people from Newton Blossomville - Finch, Ruffhead, Ross etc








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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Saturday 15 October 22 23:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you -

Yes I think

William John Woods born 1862 Bucks is the son of Sidney and Herodias (Rhoda).

But … William John Woods birth certificate shows Joel Woods as the father.

I am swayed further in my idea because my fathers DNA connects somehow to Finch & Ruffhead & Ross families

William John Woods marries Elizabeth Rebecca Finch born Sep 1865 in Newton Blossomville, Buckinghamshire

She is descended from Finch, Ruffhead & a generation higher Ross.

It’s either of their two sons who could be my fathers birth father.




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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Buckinghamshire Bastardy Bonds / 1924 ? /
« on: Saturday 15 October 22 22:12 BST (UK)  »
An update …

I have found through Ancestry DNA that my 98 year old fathers Great Grandfather was almost certainly 

Sidney Young
Born - 1836 in Grovely Wood, Wiltshire England

Died - 1893 Danesfield, Medmenham,, Buckinghamshire, England


In the 1861 Census, Sidney Young, age 25, is recorded as a Gamekeeper lodging with Mr & Mrs Joel & Herodias Woods and family of Newton Blosomville, Buckinghamshire.

From Ancestry DNA I suspect Sidney Young must have fathered a child around 1862 in or around Newton Blossomville possibly with Herodias Woods -

And intriguingly after 1861 Joel & Herodias Woods are living at different locations on the Census data.

Questions

- would there be Bastardly Bonds from circa 1862 ?


I’ve searched British Newspaper Archives - and found a few mentions but nothing important

- Is there anywhere else I could look for more info on Sidney Young - I have the Ancestry info

I can’t find Sidney Youngs probate or Will online.

And I don’t know where he is buried either.

Any suggestions welcome.

———-

Edit: changed spelling of name to correct my dyslexia - Sidney Young

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Northamptonshire / Re: N0RTHAMPTON - Home for illegitimate babies
« on: Saturday 29 January 22 18:50 GMT (UK)  »

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World War One / Re: WW1 / RAMC TF / Cyril Woods / Help … /
« on: Tuesday 04 January 22 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
There is a group photo including Cyril Woods with matching info on a tree on Ancestry, the tree owner is called Woody Holmes. Take a look and see what you think, the photo is of an older man, but I can see a likeness. I can't post the photo here as it contravenes Rootschat privacy policy.

Good Luck!

Carol

I will have a look 

He has a similar look, but this is not the Cyril Woods which would match with DNA.

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World War One / Re: WW1 / RAMC TF / Cyril Woods / Help … /
« on: Tuesday 04 January 22 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
I have posted this a few years ago - I thought the solder was another person, but that’s definitely not the case.

This was left for my father - my Dad was born in 1924.


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