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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Sunday 23 February 25 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the very kind offer Paul but I don't need them .... if you go to WikiTree.com and search for Grace Waterson born 1862, you'll come up with the profile that has been created for her -- all are open for adoption if you're interested  :)

It's always exciting when a brick wall comes tumbling down, isn't it!!!  And since Grace and Denis Duffy had so many children, there are likely oodles of descendants running around.

Even though her name at birth was Grace Waterson, all her childrens' birth records have her maiden name as Clyde and any death records that I found at ScotlandsPeople, mother's maiden name also listed as Clyde ..... all making me think that her mother must have told her who her real father was before she died in 1876, or maybe, at that time, Hamilton was small enough that many people knew.

If you ever check into her prison record, I'd be curious as to how she broke the law - it was in 1891 in Cumnock, Ayrshire when son James Duffy's birth was also registered as James Clyde for some odd reason, especially since she'd been married since 1882 (??)
 
SCOTLAND PRISON RECORDS INDEX
Name   Grace Clyde or Duffy
Occupation   House Keeper
Residence   Crosshouse
Year Jailed   1889
Age   27
Estimated Birth Year   1862
Birthplace   Hamilton
Prison   Ayr
County   Ayrshire
NRS Reference   HH21/27/13 p. 81

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Saturday 22 February 25 16:38 GMT (UK)  »
Paul --

I was researching James Clyde for another tree I was helping with and noticed that someone had him listed in their online tree at Ancestry as the spouse of Helen Waterson with daughter Grace Clyde.

Just as I was about to leave a comment letting them know that he married Agnes Cornfield in the month following Grace's birth and never married Helen, I thought I better do a little digging of my own to be certain.

I found someone online at the FamilySearch website that had actually kindly shared the birth, marriage + death certs that they had purchased and saw that indeed, Grace Waterson gave her name as Grace Clyde when she married and her father as James Clyde, coal miner, deceased (and of course, Helen Waterson, also deceased).

Indeed, James Clyde, coal miner, husband of Agnes C died in the Blantyre Explosion (or Hamilton explosion) in Oct 1877 along with 2 very young sons of his.

When I came across your website, I couldn't find a "contact" link so was delighted to find something posted here in case you didn't already have this info.

So glad that it's going to help you further your tree along!!



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Lanarkshire / Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« on: Friday 21 February 25 22:38 GMT (UK)  »
Paul -- just wanted to say how amazing your website it ... I'm not even related in any way but it made for fascinating reading!!!

Not sure if you've found anything on Grace Waterson Law aka Grace Clyde since you last posted?

As you know, Grace Waterson was born 3 September 1862 in Hamilton, LAN to mother Helen Waterson.

Helen also had a son Patrick Waterson born 8 Feb 1870 in Eastwood, REN and since you noted that Helen and Thomas Law were living together before their marriage, Patrick must have been his son. Not with them in 1871 though, so must have died as an infant.

As Grace Clyde she married Denis Duffy on 13 July 1882 at the Roman Catholic Chapel in Hamilton and her parents were listed as James Clyde, coal miner, and Helen Clyde, nee Waterson - both deceased. His parents were John Duffy, farmer, and Margaret Canning.

To make it more interesting, Helen and James Clyde never married each other - in October 1862 he married Agnes Cornfield in Hamilton LAN. At some point, Grace must have learned that he was her father so she used the surname Clyde at her wedding and even later on in a prison record in Ayrshire in 1889 as well as the surname of a son born after her 1882 marriage but having the surname written as Clyde or Duffy.

Grace and Denis were the parents of several children!!

She died in 1915 in Hamilton LAN
DUFFY, GRACE
53
WATERSON
1915
647 / 631
Hamilton

I hope this helps you track down all of Grace Waterson Clyde Law Duffy's children!!  :)

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Yes, Friern Barnet was a new place for me too :-)

Many online trees have John Simmons & Rhoda Barker mixed up / confused with John Avery Simmons & Rhoda Fuller -- 2 totally different couples.

Rhoda Fuller Simmons died 1906 and John Avery Simmons remarried (spelled Overy on marriage cert) in 1907 in Paddington, London to Olive Norah Davies. John and Olive remained in England while the other couple moved to Canada between daughter's birth in 1883 and 1887.

Thanks for all input -- it's much appreciated!!

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Thanks -- this request has been completed

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Ancestry has this marriage image/details but unfortunately I don't have a subscription and am hoping some kind soul here might have a subscription and a little time  :)

Name: John Simmons
Spouse: Rhoda Barten (or Barker)
Event Date: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Event Place: Barnet, Middlesex, England
Registration District: Barnet
Page: 253
Volume: 3A
Line Number: 273

Many thanks in advance!!



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Got them! You were right -- they went to my Spam folder :-)

Now, off to do some reading!!

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Thanks -- I'll let you know when I receive them :-)

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Thanks SO MUCH for these details which prove conclusively that he's the correct James Hamilton, brother of my ancestor Elizabeth Hamilton.

I've just sent you a PM but am not sure it went through?

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