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Thanks Geoff and Trish.
I knew of all baptisms of children of Thomas and Ann Green and I was the person who corrected all info. on census where surname transcribed as Grell, place of birth of Thomas is Stretton and grandaughter should be Mary Emily Green (daughter of Walter who was a widower by then).
I have info. on Greens in Stretton, Rutland.
On both marriage certs. John William Green puts Thomas Green, a farmer as his father.  He may of course not wanted to say that he was illegitimate, or did not know that Thomas was really his grandfather or ?..
I think that if I could just find John William's exact date of birth that might help solve the mystery---I would like to find him on 1939 register if possible where complete birth dates asked---I think that most people would have known day and month even if they were unsure of year.  The other possibility is if anyone has access to Sutterton School admission registers?
Thanks again
Sandra

I have found JWG, wife Alice, daughters Annie and Alice in 1939 in Southend, keeping a grocer's shop. I am sure this matches the family in 1911.

His date of birth given as 16 June 1871, Alice 30 Nov 1871, Annie 26 Mar 1898, Alice 7 Aug 1902.

I think it likely that JWG died in Southend in Q1 1946 aged 74, and (possibly) Alice in Q3 1951 aged 80.

I realise this doesn't match what you already have.  .   





Thanks ,Geoff, but I am afraid that none of above info. is anything to do with my grandfather, John William Green.
This is what I have which I know is correct.
1891 living in Fosdyke with grandparents---age 17
1901 living with wife and family in Dawsmere, Lincs. ---age 28
1911 living with wife and family in Thorney---age 39

8/8/1897 marriage cert. age 23
Wife Lucy Sarah Hart (my grandmother) died.
26/12/1921 marriage cert. age 52.   Nottinghamshire.

Second wife died and do not know when he left Notts. And returned to Lincs. Sometime after 1925.
Died Woodlands Court, Kirton and brought back to Nottinghamshire for burial.
I wonder if there are any records of Woodlands Court(wrote a few years ago, but no reply)
Cannot find JWG on 1939 register, but unable to search fully.
Seem to have hit a brick wall for info. before1891 and 1925--to 1946.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks again, Geoff

JWG doesn't appear in Kirton or Frampton in the 1933 Kelly's directory.

I assume this marriage is right -
25 May 1897 at Wigtoft
John William GREEN (son of Edward) to Alice SELLERS (dau of Newton)

John Green of the parish of Stretton and
Anne Picket of this parish (Tickencote)
married by banns
27 May 1822


bride and groom both made their mark

Witnesses : William Roberts (signed) and Ann Roberts (made her mark).

Thanks very much. I did not have names of witnesses, but have now discovered a William Roberts  marrying Annie Green 25th. Feb. 1811 Ketton cum Tixover, Rutland, so they may be brother-in-law and sister of John Green.
I wouldn't have discovered this without your help. Thanks again.
MG

Quote from: CaroleW on Wednesday 12 July 17 21:19 BST (UK)

Family Search has baptisms to John & Ann in Stretton as follows:

William 20.1.1825
Thomas 13.2.1828
Sarah 27.3.1831

Quote from: CaroleW on Wednesday 12 July 17 21:19 BST (UK)

Family Search has baptisms to John & Ann in Stretton as follows:

William 20.1.1825
Thomas 13.2.1828
Sarah 27.3.1831

Thanks Carole,
I already have info. From 1841 and 1851.Have bought birth certs for Frances and also her twin, George born one hour later!  George is not with family in 1851, but is working as a servant at a nearby house.
I did not know of existence of William and will try to find out more.
Am still looking for birth of Ann Pykett in Osgodley, Lincs.
Thanks again.
Hope you get this as am still working out where to post acknowledgements for help given.
MG

New member, so hope I am posting in correct place!
Please is anyone able to look up and find more details of this marriage in Tickencote?
JOHN GREEN and ANNE PICKET
27th. May 1822 TICKENCOTE, RUTLAND
Thanks very much