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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 24 September 10 18:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Disgruntled,

My grandmother, Ellen Ballantyne, b. 1903, was the grand-daughter of Duncan and Ellen.  My mother, also Helen, is almost 80 and remembers her grandfather Duncan and Rosetta, her grandmother, though both died when she was a child.  It might help you get a picture of the kind of people the family were, to hear a little of them.

Duncan junior, (born c. 1864) was a tall man with a strong Irish accent.  When he was near, all the children knew that theyw ere to be quiet.  He told wonderful stories - a real gift for the blarney.  He was very Presbyterian.  In those days, (pre WW2) the Sabbath was avery solemn and joyless day - with him it was even stricter.  He would not allow his daughters to look out of the window on a Sunday.

Rosetta McLeanBallantyne (and yes, the name altered a lot - have you found Bonnatine?)  was an old woman in a long black dress and a mutch, sitting in a rocking chair.  Very kind and gentle, during the war she saved her precious sugar ration to make toffee for all the children.  They had 11 children.

Researching this famly has been difficult, with lots of data not adding up.

The Lagavgara/Ballycastle thing may be explained by saying that at the time, at least, Lagavara was tiny and Ballycastle was probably the place which was where BMDs were registered.  My grandmother always said she was born in a farm cottage by the side of the road at Carrondhu.  (Not sure about the spelling.)  That may have been the same family farm, but I'm not sure. 
What I do know is that her Aunt Nancy ran the farm until her death, sometime, I think, in the 50s.

As for the different marriage dates.  It's quite possible the marriage was not one which had a ceremony.  I'm unsure about the practice in Ireland, but here in Scotland such marriages were legal, but not very respectable.  They also caused questions of legitimacy.

I don't have John's name on my tree, but if you have access to GenesReunited, my tree's available to view as Elaine Ferguson.  It clearly shows my problems with confusions in data.

It's great to talk to a distant cousin.  I'm having trouble with this reply, but you can send me a message via genes if you wish.


Elaine




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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Saturday 07 March 09 00:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks.  I really appreciate all your efforts.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 23:17 GMT (UK)  »
Might explain why I've had so much bother.  Between my gran's spelling and my lack of knowledge aof Irish geography. 

I can't seem to find any town or village.  Is it all just a golf course and a run down mansion?  Would the farm have belonged to the estate?

Sorry to monopolise you, but you've given me more information tonight than I've found in 10 years.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 23:04 GMT (UK)  »
I think it's Cairndhu golf course

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 22:37 GMT (UK)  »
If it has a large golf course it is.  That's all I know.  They came from a row of farm cottages which don't exist now.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 22:35 GMT (UK)  »
Terriffic.  thanks for all this.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
P.S.  All I know is that they were Protestant, becoming members of the Church of Scotland when they moved to Scotland.

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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 22:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi - aren't you efficient!  You're so fast getting back to me.  It's great.

Ellen's parents, my gt. grandparents were Duncan Ballantyne/Bonnatine b. circa 1864 in Ballycastle or Ballintoy and lived in Carrondoo (sorry about the spelling) and married Rosetta McClean/McLean, as you said, in 1894, in Ballintoy.  His sister, Nancy Bonnatine had a small farm in or near Carrondoo.

My gt. gt. grandparents were Duncan Bonnatyne and Ellen Morgan, both born in Ireland.  He is listed as a farmer.  That's where the trail ends.

Thanks,

Elaine


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Antrim Completed Look up Requests / Re: Ballantyne family
« on: Friday 06 March 09 21:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Aghadowey, I'm new to the site and appreciate all the help I can get.

Ellen moved to Scotland about 1905 aged 2 - so will be in no Irish census.  When she retired she sent off for her birth certificate (to Dublin, I think)  she believed that it, and a lot of other data had been lost when the Records office had caught fire. 

Thanks for the link.  I will check the 1901 census for her older siblings, parents and grandparents.

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