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Lancashire / Re: Family Search Lancashire Images - Broken?
« on: Wednesday 18 May 11 16:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for writing them and posting!

I wrote to them last week and this is now there official line on the matter.

Dear Lord V,

Thank you for contacting FamilySearch regarding the problems viewing images in the England, Lancashire – Cheshire – Yorkshire Parish Registers, 1603-1992 collection.

 "The Image is not available" error message appears when trying to access some of the images, even when users are signed in.  This is due to privacy restrictions in both the UK and EU which prohibit viewing images for within the last 100 yrs.   In a future rework the links to those restricted images will be removed.

Actually, I thought the rule for the UK is you cannot get certificates for the last 50 years from the GRO, but isn't this a church collection, not a goverment collection?

My hunch and hope are that until they can differentiate between specific  images that are okay vs. too recent, the entire collection will be restricted.

I know in Poland that the 100 year rule applies for archived civil records, and no one is given access to books with any records in them that are less than 100 years old, but this is the UK, not Poland.  And this database for Lancashire etc. has  church records, not civil.

It may be another case of sending a pat answer...a better one, but still a standard one.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Moses and Esther Palestrant in Leeds
« on: Wednesday 11 May 11 17:26 BST (UK)  »
I did find Annie's death age 86 , and burial 1 / 7 1962 at Pinelands 1 Cemetery , Cape Town
Section 4b grave 4662.
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Annie Hoffman
Haya bat Yitzchak Yosef / Grave 4662

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I got this information from Jewish Cemetery, Cape Town Administration site
You can contact them at  exec@uoscape.co.za

I think this means we are still looking for the Palestrant connection ?
How cool!  No, these are likely to be my family.  Isaac Joseph's birth certificate will be a better source to confirm that we do indeed have the right Hoffman family.

Yitzchak Yosef  translates to Isaac Joseph, Joseph is still in the name, and if this is the right Hoffman family, it gives me Moses Palestrant's father's full Hebrew name.  It also tells us exactly who Annie and Abraham's son Isaac Joseph was named after.

Thanks for finding the cemetery site.  I am going to explore, it may help with a lot of my other research.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Moses and Esther Palestrant in Leeds
« on: Wednesday 11 May 11 01:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks JeannieR!   I had to do some fiddling with my nonstandard browser, but did finally find that.

I also found the marriage of Marcus Noah Hoffman to Polly Cohen in April 1922 by searching Hoffman at the Kaplan Center Jewish Site for South Africa.   Abraham's naturalization and Annie's death may also be listed there, not sure if the records are theirs.  Am hoping connecting the with the Hoffman Tree owner will get me in touch with family who will know more.

http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_RootWeb.exe?entry_point=Marriages

Thanks so much again!

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Isaac Joseph Hoffman, born December 12th 1895, married Rose Joseph and had at least one child. Mervyn at Cape Town in February 4th 1936-1988

There is someone on Ancestry (Hoffman Tree) with Isaac as a relative. ...
I have not been able to turn up this particular Hoffman Tree at Ancestry, or a Mervyn Hoffman except one who went to Australia.   Can you help me find the tree?

Thanks

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Lancashire / Re: Family Search Lancashire Images - Broken?
« on: Monday 09 May 11 01:06 BST (UK)  »
will definitely stay on the case, I want to see those records!
Is this a specific database you are talking about, is it the one in the menu for Lancashire - Cheshire - Yorkshire Parish Registers?  I think the url for that one is

 https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1788853

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Lancashire / Re: Family Search Lancashire Images - Broken?
« on: Sunday 08 May 11 22:31 BST (UK)  »
got the automated response to that one  :)
Good!  So let us know what they say.  I am a skeptic - I would be surprised if you were satisfied with their initial response.  As I mentioned  before, they may send you a standard response that you have to emphatically explain why it doesn't fit, to get a meaningful answer.  If you get a good response, great, if not, do not give up, reiterate your question with more clarity.

I think the work they are doing is fantastic, but they get so many many emails that it sometimes  is hard for them to give meaningful responses.

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Lancashire / Re: Family Search Lancashire Images - Broken?
« on: Sunday 08 May 11 20:11 BST (UK)  »
...I sent a message through their own system not directly from my email and I have not had an automated reply as yet (did it last night)
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Sorry, I should have made it clear that the automatic response comes if you email support@familysearch.org - and the response is virtually immediately.  If you don't get an automated response from a real email to them, then they did not get the email. Private messages on their site do not work that way.

An advantage to the forum is others can chime in to your comment or query, strengthening it.

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Lancashire / Re: Family Search Lancashire Images - Broken?
« on: Sunday 08 May 11 17:49 BST (UK)  »
It's been like this for days and I've sent them a message.  There are quite a few unavailale  :'(
If it does not get better, send them an email.  You should get a robotic confirmation email.  If you do not, email again.  Once you hear back, if you are not satisfied with their answer, jump up and down a bit and explain why their answer is not helpful and get them to give you a better answer.

They do say they revise the whole site at least every month, so this might just be part of another one of their regular upgrades.   But then again, in some cases (especially outside of England), they discover copywrite issues and remove databases from public access entirely.  Their Wiki pages sometimes expain what is going on, but generally not immediately.

But the more peope they hear from on an issue, the more attention they pay to it.

A place they pay a lot of attention to, is their feedback forum:

http://getsatisfaction.com/familysearch/topics/

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claire.t helped me find the listings at the following JewishGen database for Leeds:
 
http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Leeds.htm

They search the entire UK database for Leeds entries for the surname of interest, and the burials are apparently not in the Jewishgen Worldwide Burial Registry, which is a totally separate database.

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