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I have traced back to William Coleman born 1810 in Grendon on the Warks/ Leics border. I know he lived in Long Clawson but was born in Grendon according to the census of 1851.

I have found records dated 1845 of William Coleman "2nd son of William" and "son of Edward Coleman" detailed in the same will. His 2nd son was William but would have been 2 or 3 so I'm unsure who his father was?

Also next to William according to the census detailed in 1841 is John Thurman who was 80 years old (so born in 1761). It is the theme that mothers Maiden names become childrens Christian names in the Coleman family and Thurman appears from then on (including one John Thurman Coleman). I wondered if there was a link between the Coleman and John Thurman family. I have found details of both Thurman and Coleman in Grendon and Long Clawson. If anyone knows anything about either that would be great!

I know my Grandma Harritte Ellen Jarvis (nee Draper) was the daughter of Enoch Draper and Annie Chambers and born in 1913 but not much else. I know Enoch was 9 in 1881, living in Notts. I don't know when they were married or when Annie was born and would be grateful for any help.

There was only 1 Annie Chambers in Eastwood (where my father and grandpa say she was from) in 1881 but I'm not sure whether it is her or not? They lived at the Palmerston Arms pub in the Breach.

She would be the right age at 2. Interestingly she always said she went to the same school as DH Lawrence and the Chambers were linked with him. I wonder if there was any link between my Chambers and Jessie Chambers, supposedly a sweetheart of DHL and who had a Sons & Lovers character based on her?

Thank you - you've traced your family a long way back, I'm very jealous!

Now I'm stuck. I have found a will extract mentioning William Coleman in 1845 who I belive to be my great, great, great, great grandfather. It is from here http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.asp?nb=0&nbKey=5&com=1&keyword=coleman&properties=0601
and as follows:

"FILE - Copy of Will - ref.  DE322/22/3  - date: Dated 13th July 1845; Proved 15th March 1849
           
[from Scope and Content] 1) All messuages, lands etc. in Hurloy in Parish of Kingsbury (Warw) to William Cooper (bailiff to late Wm. P. Inge esq of Thorpe, Co. Staffs) for his life, & after that to William Coleman (2nd son of William Coleman of Long Claws

[from Scope and Content] 5) All his real estate in Long Clawson, & all his personal estate to William Coleman (son of Edward Coleman of Long Clawson) but charged with payment of debts & legacies the annuity;

[from Scope and Content] 6) William Coleman appointed sole Executor;"

This is from 1845, in 1841 and 1851 there was only one William Coleman in Long Clawson but it states 2nd son of William and also "son of Edward". I initially thought that William referenced as 2nd son of William was my great, great, great grandfather but he was born in 1842 so a bit young to be mentioned in wills maybe? Especially when his Dad was around?

I need to know who the William Coleman and Edward Coleman were? Please help!