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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Thursday 28 June 18 22:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Max,

I think I have sent two replies but not sure whether they have gone through.  If you don't get a response please let me know.

Regards Sarah

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Tuesday 26 July 16 08:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dod, Thanks for your post.  Much appreciated.

Regards Sarah

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 05:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Marian, Nice to hear from you.  Joseph Baird b. 1884 Montrose was the second child and son of Joseph and his wife Isabella Hird both natives of Montrose, Angus.  He died on 3 October 1954 at his home, 51 King St, Montrose.  On 25 July 1919 he married local girl, Annie Alexander.  Known children are Alexander about 1920 who received the Military Medal in WW2 and George born 1925.

An article in the Courier 22 August 1916 read "Company Sergeant Major Joseph Baird, Black Watch is the first Montrose non commissioned officer to be awarded the Military Cross.  "He has set a fine example of courage and control on many occasions under heavy fire".  He is the son of Mrs Baird, 38 Castle St, Montrose and was mobilised as a Territorial on the outbreak of war.  He has been at the front since October 1914 and rejoined for service on the expiry of his time in December last.  He is well known as a referee and official of Montrose Club in football circles.  Prior to going on service, CSM Baird was a foreman in Chapel Works, Montrose.  Quite recently he rescued a wounded comrade belonging to the Royal Sussex who was lying within a few yards of German trenches".

Attached is a copy of the article which has a photo.  I have more newspaper articles if you would like copies.  Unfortunately I have been unable to locate Joseph's WW1 Service Record on Ancestry however according to one article his regimental no. was:

The Courier, Monday August 21, 1916 Page 3 under heading: Scottish Heroes are Rewarded for Gallant Deeds on Field of Battle The following Scottish officers and men are included in a long list of honours for gallantry: - Military Cross - 1142 Company Sergeant-Major Joseph Baird, Royal Highlanders for conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. He has set a fine example of courage and control on many occasions under very heavy fire.

I would love to receive a copy of the photo you mention together with any other information you might have on Joseph.  My husband's grandfather James (1894-1946) was Joseph's younger brother.


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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 04:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Thanks Annie.  I wondered why I could not see my pm in my message box.

Regards Sarah

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 00:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi, sorry Marian, my pm to you read Kitty.  Apologies.  Regards Sarah.

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I am looking for information about my family from Scotland. My grandmother's name was
Hughina Stokes and she was  married to Charles Stokes. They were married in 1913 in Glasgow Scotland. Hughina's mother was Kate McKinnon not to sure who her father was possibly a MacLean from Oban.  At the time of their marriage I believe Kate McKinnon was deceased. The 1911 census
shows that Hughina at age 19 lived with her Uncle John McKinnon (Kate's brother) in Glasgow. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I can fill in some blanks for you - I was particularly interested to read that Hughina lived with her uncle John McKinnon and his wife Jessie Gilchrist in North St, Glasgow at the time of the 1911 census.

Kate (Catherine) McKinnon 1860-1905 married fisherman Hector McLean on 6 September 1892 at 21 Shore St, Oban nine months after Hughina's 22 Dec 1891 birth.

Between 1893-1904 Kate and Hector had the following children:  source 1901 census:  Joan 1893; Catherine 1895; Hector 1896-1911; John 1898-1941; Arthur 1901 and Alexander 1904.

Hector must have struggled to juggle work and raise his children after Kate's death because in the National Archives of Scotland is a record "JC 31 Justiciary Appeals Process 1864-1998: GB 234 - Ref. JC31/1907/17 Bill of Suspension by Hector McLean Fisherman Oban v Hugh Skinner, Inspector of Poor, Kilmore & Kilbride lodged 9 March. Bill passed. Conviction & suspension suspended. JC31/58 JC 30/3)".

In the 1911 census, the McLean children were inmates at Lorn Combination Poorhouse along with my husband's grandmother Elizabeth McTavish, a cousin to the McLean children:

2 April 1911 McTavish, Elizabeth (Census 1911 523/00 013/00 001)

Elizabeth McTavish servant 65 gaelic & english single cook  (acutally Isabella McTavish cousin of Kate (Catherine) McKinnon and aunt of the McTavish girls).
MacLean: John 12; Arthur 10; Alexander 7.
MacTavish: Mary 11 and Elizabeth 9.

1911 Census for Hector McLean and daughter Catherine (b. 1895) McLean:  5 Combie Lane, Oban
Duncan McLean 42 head stoker, Northern Lighthouse - ; Christina wife 37; John son 3; Neil son 9 months; Hector brother 40 wid general labourer and Kate niece 15.

In 1912 Hector McLean married Elizabeth McDonald.  Hector passed away on 30 May 1930 at Cawdor Cottage, Oban, Argyll.  "Hector McLean, woodcutter married to 1st Catherine McKinnon and 2nd Elizabeth McLean or MacDonald".  Son, John McLean registered the death.

On 29 Aug 1913 at Milton Parish Church, Glasgow Hughina married Charles Stokes, drapery packer age 25 of 157 Shamrock St, Glasgow.  Hughina gave her occupation as french polisher/spinster age 21 of the same address and listed her father as John McKinnon fisherman.  Her mother Kate's maiden name was listed as McLean.  I too believe she named her uncle as her father; more so since in 1911 she was living with John and Jessie at North St, Glasgow.

I have Charles Stokes' death certificate - 11 March 1953 at 18 Barlock St, Glasgow, Scotland "Charles Stokes, Stationer's Packer m. to Hughina McKinnon McLean at 3h 30m am; 65 years. F: William Stokes scientific instrument maker M: Mary (Ms Laird). Cause: Carcinoma of bladder approx. 2 years certified M Adams. Informant: W Stokes, son present".

Ancestry has a 1957 UK Incoming Passenger List for Hughina Stokes.  Her DOB is given as 25 Dec 1894, single of 18 Barlock St, Possil Park, Glasgow, housewife departed from Montreal on board the Sylvania; arriving Greenock, Scotland on 3 Oct 1957.

I also found a reference to Robert Stokes in an immigration record for his sister in law, Jean T Stokes. "United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XGDN-QWR : accessed 15 Apr 2014), Jean T Stokes, 24 Jan 1955; citing "Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954," Ancestry.com; Ship , arrival port Buffalo, New York, , line , NARA microfilm publication M1480, roll 129, Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario.
 
He is referred to as brother in law of Jean T Stokes, the second wife of his brother Charles.  Dottie Stokes, wife of Ian Evans Stokes (son Charles Stokes(Jr) & Georgina Evans) has a public tree on Ancestry following this line of Stokes which also includes details of Robert McLean Stokes.

My last reference for Hughina was in a death notice for her grandson Ronald which I found in The San Diego Union: Thursday Dec 28, 1967:  Stokes, Ronald, Sgt. USMC son of Charles and Jean Stokes.  Brother of Linda, Jacqueline and Ian Stokes.  Grandson of Hughine Stokes.  Military Graveside Services Thurs 1pm Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery.  Johnson-Saum & Knobel in charge.

Hughina's half brother John McLean's son also named John still resided in Oban Feb 2011.

I'd love to find out more about Hughina.

Sarah

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Hi, this topic has caught my interest; here's a link from a few years ago relating to Matilda McKinnon/Raymond/Chalmbers/Renwick, Hughina's cousin.  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=505687.0
and http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=509681.msg5085787#msg5085787

Sarah

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Lanarkshire / Re: Hunter/Buchanan of Partick
« on: Thursday 24 January 13 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kay, thanks for your message.  I will take your advice - never thought about trying Hunt.  Actually, I also have a William Buchan and Kate McIntyre in my tree.  They were the parents of Margaret Buchan born about 1844 who married John McIntyre on 7 March 1866 at the Taynuilt Hotel, Muckairn, both of Oban.  John McIntyre was a slater and son of Mary McFadyen and Peter McIntyre.  Note the spelling of Buchan - Margaret died in 1890 at Lorn Combination Poorhouse.  This Margaret Buchan is, as far as I know, not related to my Glasgow Buchanan's although you never know.

Perhaps its time I took the Glasgow Buchanan's out of the too hard basket.  Kind regards, Sarah.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: DO ANGUS/DUNDEE MUSEUMS PURCHASE WAR MEDALS?
« on: Wednesday 02 January 13 21:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your help ccc.

Regards sarah

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