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If screen size of a MacBook is an issue for genealogy buy the MacBook and a cheap external screen for use as a secondary screen when the MacBook is at home. The best of both worlds!

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Scotland / Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen Glasgow
« on: Friday 14 July 17 03:42 BST (UK)  »
Here we are in 2017, about 7 years on, and I gave finally gotten around to joining the Litvak SIG of JewishGen.org.

Sadly, there in the All Lithuanian Database I found voter registration records for Sholom Berko Krok, his wife, Etel and daughters Stira Yudes and Libe Raykha -- as well as his 77 year old mother, Chava. They are dated 1908! This seems to put an end to Justin's Krok hypothesis.

I enjoyed having it for 7 years or so. And NOW I find that at least one of my 3 --4th DNA "cousins" has Kroks in his family tree. However, Krok (present day Krakes) is a village in the right area and it is possible that its inhabitants took Krok as a surname for use outside the village.

Cheers,
Geoff

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Europe / Re: Automatic language translation
« on: Monday 20 June 11 12:48 BST (UK)  »
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Google Chrome is a web browser which allegedly is very good at spying on what you're doing, and sending the results back to Google 

Various internet tools, probably including Chrome, look at info like your location and what you visit. I gather the claimed benefit is that they can target adverts etc better. My recollection is that most of these, including Chrome, have a way to turn off this collection -- perhaps someone can enlighten us.

However, there is no need to use Chrome to get Translate.  At the risk of robbing myself of some business  ;), Google translate is available independent of browser. Just go to a Google search page and select Translate under the more option at the top of the page --  then follow the bouncing ball...

There is one information gathering issue however. If you have something confidential to translate then many translators say it is better not to use Google translate as, in my understanding, it uses a database of stuff it has encountered before: and in goes your confidential stuff.

--Geoff

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Europe / Re: Automatic language translation
« on: Monday 20 June 11 12:31 BST (UK)  »
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Geoff, Ja! Ik ben een dom engelsman!
En ik een dom australiėr -- mijn vrouw is een nederlandse  ;D  --G

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Europe / Re: Automatic language translation
« on: Monday 20 June 11 11:18 BST (UK)  »
Definitely on line automatic translation is worth a try. However, as you may find, all too often what is returned makes only minimal sense: depends on how may phrases Google translate has encountered (and stored with their translations) before.

As a co-proprietor of a Dutch <--> English translation business which does translate genealogical documents I find that, especially with older, handwritten documents the key step is transcription. Translation is then relatively straightforward, though Google and its ilk can struggle because of the differences between Dutch and English word order, idiom etc -- not to mention archaic words, spelling and grammar.

On the side of Google and automatic translation: it is free. Translation and transcription are labour intensive and far from free in many cases.

Cheers
Geoff

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Europe / Salomon Izak
« on: Sunday 19 June 11 10:18 BST (UK)  »
My great grandfather, Salomon Izak, was born in Groningen in 1846 and died in Amsterdam, after two marriages, in 1909.

He is sometimes, mistakenly, called Salomon Bollegraaf or Salomon Izaak Bollegraaf (see my contributions to this forum a year ort two ago.

I know about his line of descent from Isaac Simons Bollegraaf, his marriages and children, but I know little more about him: his work, where he lived, whether he ever had any clashes with the law and so on.

Does anyone know more or have good ideas where to look???

Cheers
Geoff

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Scotland / Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen Glasgow
« on: Saturday 11 September 10 02:48 BST (UK)  »
Sorry shapm4, I was so focussed on the Krok side that I neglected to notice you were talking about the Blochs.

However, in fact for health reasons I have been off this stuff for six months or more and hope to get back to it soon.

As I recall it, one of the Bloch problems is that it is/was a fairly common name in various variants in Eastern Europe.

Hopefully when I am once more immersed in this research and have my own data more fully at my mental fingertips I will come back to your contribution and respond more cogently.

Cheers
Geoff

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Scotland / Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen Glasgow
« on: Saturday 11 September 10 02:41 BST (UK)  »
Thanks shapm4.

In fact in the last many months I have made no more progress.

In particular, while I have contacted descendants of Jessie's parents, they are in such ill health that they have been to date unable to comment on the Krok--Crown hypothesis so well established by Justin.

I live in hope, but due to health issues of my own (soon to be resolved, I hope) have not pursued the Kroks any further.

Cheers
Geoff

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Australia / Re: Philip COHEN Britain to Sydney ABT 1911-12
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 21:22 GMT (UK)  »
This more an update than a "reply" to my own post.

I have a P. Cohen arriving in Sydney on Nov 23 1911. The list [part of a crew and passenger list] implies, but does not say, that all those on the list boarded in London [and not en route]. This person is a good candidate for "my" Philip.

However, a search on findmypast for a P. Cohen (or ANY Cohen, for that matter) leaving on the Otranto for Australia in 1911 yielded no one.

One possibility is that the index is incomplete. However, the only way to check this is to find the relevant departure of the Otranto and look page by page through the passenger list.

There are NO other P. Cohens, male or female, in the shipping departure lists on line for any ship that fit the bill as "my" one. All depart either too early to have fathered Jessie's second child or significantly long after Jessie.

In summary, the Otranto person is very likely him, but I would very much like to establish him leaving Britain as well as arriving in Sydney.

-G

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