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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage in Newcastle
« on: Wednesday 20 July 11 18:06 BST (UK)  »
The marriage can be found in the Bishops Transcripts for St John's Newcastle on page 137 of the section 1803 - 1821:

George Bibby and Maria Atkinson, 11 January 1807

No further information is included

(If you have not used these before I am sure someone will post a message to tell you how to access them.)

Avril

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Northumberland Completed Look up Requests / Re: 1901 census lookup - Kirkpatrick
« on: Thursday 26 May 11 22:56 BST (UK)  »
Is this her?

1901 census:
Florence A Kirkpatrick age 16 born Newcastle upon Tyne
Father William J Kirkpatrick age 50 born Carlisle Cumberland, Engineering Chief Draughtsman
Mother Jane L Kirkpatrick age 47 born Edinburgh Scotland
Siblings: William D Kirkpatrick age 25 born Gateshead Durham
            Lilias A Kirkpatrick age 22 born Newcastle upon Tyne
132  Albert Road, Handsworth, St James Parish, West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Piece 2711  Folio 38 page 23

Avril

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Northumberland / Re: Frederick
« on: Sunday 13 March 11 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to all,
I already have the information about the birth of William John Frederick and Eliza Annie (my ancestor) from St Hilda’s South Shields parish registers.
The Brighton link seems to be a dead end, I can find no link at all.  The Frederick mentioned as a bankrupt in the London Gazette also went to Australia and set up a printing business there which is quite well documented but alas he is not my Frederick.   There was also a Frederick Russell Wigney born in Brighton around the right time, but he is not mine either.
I have been in contact with several people researching the Wigney family both here and in Australia, and none of us can make any connection between my lot and Brighton.  Most of the Brighton lot left the country and emigrated to North America and Australia as their businesses (mainly banking and brewing) collapsed.  It would appear that the Brighton branch most likely originated in the north of England, probably Yorkshire.
Frederick was in fact a bigamist.  He married Elizabeth Middlemiss in 1860 in Sandy Creek, and they went on to have 7 or 8 children.  I have a copy of his marriage certificate, and his signature on there matches perfectly with that on his letters to his first wife Eliza, so we definitely have the same guy.  We have no letters from him after 1858.  Eliza continued to live in North Shields until she died in 1899, there was no divorce, and on census records she is listed as married until 1891 when she is a widow.  I wonder what she thought? Probably that Frederick had been lost at sea or died in the goldfields.  There are no family stories that I know of, maybe he wasn’t talked about!
He gave his name on the second marriage certificate as Frederick Reed Wigney (First wife Eliza Reed) and stated that he was a bachelor – naughty!  He also gave his age in 1860 as 29 years, which does not tally, his father’s name as William Wigney, butcher, and his mother as Elizabeth Reed – co-incidence???
I also have a copy of his death registration.  This states that in 1902 he was 83 years old, and the son of William Wigney, butcher, and Elizabeth Reed, which is at least consistent.  His place of birth was given as Preston, Northumberland.  I also have a copy of his obituary from his local newspaper, and he appears to have become a model citizen. If only they knew…
There are a couple of possible Williams, one in Manchester St Ann, baptised 11 Jan 1786, and others in Yorkshire.  No definite links with any of them.
So you can see I know quite a lot about his later life but nothing at all before his marriage in 1851, or anything about his parents William and (maybe) Elizabeth Reed.  He seems to have been quite a character, and I would love to have met him, but he was not always truthful, which makes research even more difficult.
If anyone can offer any ideas or any information I’d be delighted.
Avril

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Northumberland / Frederick
« on: Saturday 12 March 11 15:55 GMT (UK)  »
I would love to find out more about the birth and early life of my 3g grandfather FREDERICK WIGNEY.

He was probably born in 1820/1821 somewhere in Northumberland, maybe at Preston, North Shields, although that is by no means certain.

He married Eliza Reed at Tynemouth Christ Church on 20 March 1851, but only states of full age and of this parish so no help there. 

His father is given as WILLIAM WIGNEY, a maltster, and I have been unable to find out any more about him either, and although there was a family of Wigneys who were brewers in Brighton I have not been able to make a connection there.

Frederick was a mariner, but in 1856 he travelled to Australia on the “Heather Belle” as part of the South Australian gold rush, and I have copies of letters he sent home to his wife.  He eventually died in 1902 in Maldon, Victoria.

The only census I have found him on in 1851 Scotland, where he and Eliza are staying with her brother William Reed and his wife Elspeth at Annan.  His age is given as 30, but I have some evidence that he lied about his age in Australia so I don’t know how accurate that age is.   I assume he was at sea for other censuses and was not listed.

I have searched through parish records and BTs for Christ Church from 1817 - 1824 trying to find his birth but drawn a complete blank.

Can anyone out there offer any other information?

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Northumberland / Re: Preston Cemetery
« on: Monday 11 October 10 11:27 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Carole and Gillian.
When you say "the ladies in the office", which office do you mean?  Yes, I do have the plot numbers from the burial records, found on the microfilms at Tyne and Wear Archives.
Cheers
Avril

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Northumberland / Preston Cemetery
« on: Monday 11 October 10 00:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi, hope you can help.
I have copies of burial records (with plot numbers) for a number of ancestors who were buried in Preston Cemetery.  I would like to go and try to find the graves, and I am wondering if anyone knows if there is a plan available to help me find them, as this would save me so much time.
 ???
Cheers
Avril

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Catherune Ward 1848 Help
« on: Saturday 25 September 10 13:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Sorry if this causes another problem, but Berwick upon Tweed has been part of England since 1482, as you will see if you look it up on Wikipedia, although before that it did change hands between England and Scotland several times.
Regards
Avril

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Berwickshire / Re: irregular marriages at Lamberton toll
« on: Thursday 23 September 10 16:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I would be most grateful if you could have a look for a Lamberton Toll marriage between THOMAS LINDORES and AGNES LAMB in 1849 (no date given).  I have got this information from a family tree on Ancestry and would like to verify it.
 ???
Thanks
Avril

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Northumberland / Re: Cornwall PRs
« on: Wednesday 01 September 10 23:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Steve
Thanks so much for the tip about the Cornwall records.  They are fantastic! 
I have used the Northumberland Bishops Transcripts records on the family search site before, but these are the actual Cornwall parish records, and so complete!
I have been researching the family tree of an aunt whose grandmother came from Cornwall, and a lot of the stuff I had found from family trees via Ancestry has now been verified by seeing the original records.  I have even found a baptism in 1602.  So far I have saved 53 pages, and still going...
Thanks again
Regards
Avril

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