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if you find out anymore info on the area between 1898 and 1908 and the boarders i would be interested to hear. i often wonder if the boarders were viewed as a source of income as the parish poor relief would have paid the famliies who took in the boardersis brother in kilts and the young people would have supplied labour on the farms. though i suppose the experience of the young people would be similar to perhaps evacuees during the second world war in that some would have had positive experiences and some unfortunately not. my grampa died when my dad was a boy but i have heard that him and his brother would often go hillwaking and i have a picture of him and his brother in kilts, perhaps this was a a result of their experience of the culture in tomintoul at the time.

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Banffshire / Re: glasgow children boarded out in tomintoul, tomnavoulin
« on: Tuesday 19 March 13 21:03 GMT (UK)  »
The orphans boarded out to tomintoul were roman catholics and were sent there as there was a catholic community there. there is an interesting museum/building where they trained priests in secret in the 1700s near tombae. there was also a convent in tomintoul up until the 1970's i think.

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hi sorry about the delay in the haven't been doing much research since that last post i sent. the reason most of the Glasgow children were sent there was because the church wanted to maintain the young people's catholic identity and this area was one of the few areas that still had a distinctive catholic community post reformation. the added bonus for the poor relief was that it was away from the 'corrupting' influence of the slums and the rural lifestyle was seen as a way of developing them into young people with good character. i found out about all this stuff by looking at the parish poor records in the Mitchell archive too. inspectors from the parish poor board were sent up at regular intervals to check on the young people in the care of the families (unfortunately i can't remember the name given to these reports in the Mitchell) but i remember seeing my grampa and other young people's names mentioned (my grampa kept running away and 'needed taking in hand'). it would be interesting to read local newspapers from the area at the time to see what local people thought of this influx of young orphans what relationships were like between them and the local children as at any time there must have been a noticeable number of these young people boarded out from Glasgow and other Scottish towns. hope this posts in at the right bit of the conversation as i am not very good at these forum things

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Banffshire / Re: glasgow children boarded out in tomintoul, tomnavoulin
« on: Tuesday 02 February 10 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
thanks archivos
have just checked the aberdeen archives site and the have records for a school in tombae and nearby tomintoul. will look into these.

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Banffshire / glasgow children boarded out in tomintoul, tomnavoulin
« on: Sunday 31 January 10 14:15 GMT (UK)  »
hi
i am trying to find out more about the experience of the young people from glasgow who were "boarded out" in the Tomintoul and Tomnavoulin areas between 1898 and 1908. i would be particularly interested in finding out about the school in tombae at this period. are there any books on the area at this time or useful sources?
thanks

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Banffshire / Re: 1901 Census look up - Maggie Grant
« on: Sunday 31 January 10 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
as regards the large numbers of boarders form glasgow. many of these if not all were placed in this area by the glasgow parish poor relief. i have discovered this researching this into my own grandfathers past arthur mcguigan. he was boarded in incnacape farm by widow gordon. boarding out was a common practice as opposed to keeping people in poor houses in scotland (although this still went on). it was seen as a way of taking young people away from the "corrupting" influences of the slums and giving them "work experience" on farms. many of the boarders sent to tomintoul and the surrounding area were catholic and it was the case that there was a convent in this area at the time and a catholic school in tombae i think. i would be interested to here if anyone has additional information on the experiences of these young people in the area between 1898 and 1908. if you want access to the parish poor relief records for glasgow you should visit the archive room in the mitchell library in glasgow. the records often contain details on the circumstances why the relief was given.

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