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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Tuesday 13 September 22 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your contributions so far, it certainly isn't straight-forward it seems!
We have gained some things we knew nothing about here, thankfully, Keats is a relative by marriage!  ;D

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Tuesday 13 September 22 21:08 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wivenhoe on Tuesday 13 September 22 01:17 BST (UK)



* birth certificate for George Thomas Burrows from 13th January 1867 St. James, County of Middlesex which lists his mother as Caroline Burrows late Keats formerly Smith (father George Burrows)

* birth certificate for a George Ebenezer Keats from 14th February 1876 St. James, County of Middlesex which is 9 years after Burrows and states mother as Caroline Keats formerly Burrows (Father John Keats)

From each of these certificates can you please give the date and place of birth, date and place of registration, and name of informant.

* birth certificate for George Thomas Burrows from 13th January 1867 St. James, County of Middlesex which lists his mother as Caroline Burrows late Keats formerly Smith (father George Burrows)

Date and Place of Birth: 13th January 1867 11 Bit Alley
Date and Place of Registration: 20th February 1867, Clerkenwell District, St. James sub district County of Middlesex
Name of Informant: X the mark of Caroline Burrows (Mother) 11 Bit Alley Clerkenwell

* birth certificate for a George Ebenezer Keats from 14th February 1876 St. James, County of Middlesex which is 9 years after Burrows and states mother as Caroline Keats formerly Burrows (Father John Keats)

Date and Place of Birth: 14th February 1876 5 Bishops Court
Date and Place of Registration: 28th March 1876 Holborn District, St. James sub district county of Middlesex
Name of Informant: X the mark of Caroline Keats (Mother) 5 Bishops Court

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Monday 12 September 22 18:51 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Kay99 on Monday 12 September 22 18:11 BST (UK)
Is this the family in 1871 with children named Keats from a previous marriage?  They are transcribed as Keck but it looks like Keats on the original - living at Eagle Place, St James Clerkenwell, Holborn


George   Burrows   Head  37      Middlesex, England
Caroline   Burrows   Wife 48   Northamptonshire, England
Charles   Keck   Son 19   London, Middlesex, England
James   Keck   Son 19   London, Middlesex, England
Caroline   Keck   Daughter 13 London, Middlesex, England
Eliza   Keck   Daughter 9 Middlesex, England
George   Burrows   Son   4 Middlesex, England

Kay

Hi Kay,

Thank you, we have just found a printout in my late aunt's paperwork supporting this so it looks like there was a relationship with a Keats before and after George Thomas Burrows.

Thank you for your help :)

Sarah

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Monday 12 September 22 18:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Monday 12 September 22 17:47 BST (UK)
Have you got a copy of the marriage certificate? 

Image on Ancestry - 25 December 1864 -St John, Clerkenwell

George Burrows - full age, bachelor - Labourer.  Father:  James, General Dealer
Caroline Smith - full age, spinster - Charwoman.  Father:  William, Shoemaker

So, perhaps not that couple!!

Hi, not that we have found as yet. we believe this to be the correct record based on what we already had.

It appears that Caroline was with a Keats prior to marrying George Burrows based on Kay99's census excert on here (we had just found a print of this oin the paperwork from my aunt as well)

Our assumption is that George Ebenezer born to Caroline and John Keats was a brother / relation to the previous Keats marriage.

Thank you for your help  :)

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Monday 12 September 22 17:25 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Monday 12 September 22 17:12 BST (UK)
I could be very wrong about this (not unknown):

There is a marriage December quarter 1864 - Clerkenwell - George Burrows and Caroline Smith appear on the same page.

I am assuming that Caroline had been previously married to ?? Keats.

There is a marriage September quarter 1844 - Taunton - Charles Smith and Caroline Keats.

Ermmmmmm  A long gap between 1844 and 1867!!!!  :-\ :-\

Hi, thank you the marriage record for George Burrows and Caroline Smith is the correct one.

What has confused us is the 'late' Keats but, she appears on a later birth certificate naming Keats as the father nd stating formerly Burrows......very odd

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Late and Formerly on a Birth Certficate
« on: Monday 12 September 22 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I have inherited my late aunt's family tree documents and I am confused over a document.

I am hoping that someone could shed some light on my question please?

I have a birth certificate for George Thomas Burrows from 13th January 1867 St. James, County of Middlesex which lists his mother as Caroline Burrows late Keats formerly Smith (father George Burrows)

Keats is a new surname to me and I would expect this to be a first / former husband but, we also have a birth certificate for a George Ebenezer Keats from 14th February 1876 St. James, County of Middlesex which is 9 years after Burrows and states mother as Caroline Keats formerly Burrows (Father John Keats)

Have we interpreted the information wrong or could the information on the Burrows birth certificate be a transcription error or error by Caroline when the birth of George Thomas was given?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance.

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Berkshire / Re: Chamberlains
« on: Wednesday 01 September 10 21:38 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Suz.

My motherinlaw will be really happy.

Thanks again everyone for help this is a great sight and great people.

Sarah

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Berkshire / Re: Chamberlains
« on: Tuesday 31 August 10 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Sandy and Suz all the information is great.

On your post Suz you posted this
 Daisy Gladys Chamberlain
Stanley Victor Chamberlain
Dec qtr 1909 Hungerford 2c 276
Are they both born on the same date.

Many thanks for all your helps it is much apriciated .

Sarah

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Berkshire / Chamberlains
« on: Monday 30 August 10 20:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone can help me i am looking for information on the Chamberlain from around Berkshire if their is anymore children for this family.

Francis Chamberlain 28 dad
Martha Chamberlain 23. mum
Edith A Chamberlain 3.  daughter
Florence E Chamberlain. 1  daughter
The above are from the 1901 census

B 1911 –D  1985 Wilfred nelson chamberlain son.


Many thanks

Sarah

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