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Jim1 and Peter
Thank you for your response and I apologise for the squashed picture.  The electronic version was normal on my PC and I cannot say why it uploaded that way.  I struggle with technology so am very grateful to Peter for correcting the photographs.  That is exactly how they look on my PC Peter.
Thank you both for your responses. Both are useful!
Warmest wishes
Greenland

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The attached photo was found in my first generation, South African grandfather's possessions (L W H James (1894-1979)).  I know they are not his parents who emigrated in the 1890's to SA where he was born, but could these be his paternal grandparents, or earlier still, who remained UK based?.  They were William James (1829-1904) and Louisa (nee Bunce) (1831-1907).

There is very little evidence to help you, only hairstyles and limited apparel but I should be grateful for any ideas you may have. Thank you.
Greenland

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: London Gazette 1855-Dissolution of Partnership
« on: Monday 09 October 23 12:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again for your input Shaun.

The brothers were bankers' clerks with a Lombard Street address (in Guildhall docs) when they were admitted to the Vintners' Guild. If the wine merchant's business was indeed operating from the 1830's, I wonder whether this was their father Thomas's business in which they had an interest but continued to work in banking.  When their father became too old to continue working, William and Edward may have taken a more active part (he died in 1841 before the census was taken).

My interest in connecting these James names with W. and E. James is for the very proceeding you mention at the Old Bailey.  Father Thomas's will includes all of his six children - among them Thomas, William and Edward - children from his second marriage and any grandchildren too, one of whom was a Thomas Francis James, son of Thomas!  Hence my interest in connecting W. and E. James in Fenchurch Street with these Vintner's Guild Jameses - but I know not how!!

Thank you for your interest Shaun.



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: London Gazette 1855-Dissolution of Partnership
« on: Monday 09 October 23 10:59 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Andy J2022 and Shaun J for taking the time to respond.  Yes Shaun, the company at 35 Fenchurch Street was W. and E. James, (Gazette) wine and spirit merchant, or Wm & Edw James (P.O. Directories).
I conducted research at the Guildhall Library many years ago and found the father, Thomas, and three of his sons, William, Edward and John Hall James, in the Guild Rolls but at no point was there mention of a company name.  In fact all three brothers were bankers clerks in the censuses so if the Fenchurch Street business does relate to them, I am not sure who ran it!  In one of the Quarterage books in which fees paid to the Guild were entered, a personal residential address connected one of the brothers to his residential address for one of the censuses so I felt confident that these Guild members were my relatives but I am unsure how to prove that the Fenchurch address and business was theirs except by company documentation or perhaps fire insurance policies.
Thank you again for your interest.

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Family History Beginners Board / London Gazette 1855-Dissolution of Partnership
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 23:27 BST (UK)  »
I have come upon the dissolution of a trading partnership between two brothers whose business was on Fenchurch Street, London.  This was published during April 1855 in The London Gazette.
Can anyone direct me to further resources either online or at an archive where I may be able to further research the company name under which the brothers traded, i.e., documentation to do with its formation and dissolution which might provide personal address details, dates of birth or ages of the partners.  I am hoping such personal information might confirm whether these two brothers are members of my family.
I had wondered about the Sun Fire Office papers held by the LMA but it is impossible for me to access those as I am not London based.
Thank you for any help you are able to give me.

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Thank you Carol.  It is very thoughtful of you to alert all of us.
Greenland

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London and Middlesex / Re: Education for Sons of Worshipful Company of Vintners
« on: Friday 22 September 17 10:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Dawnsh for not only the tip but the link!
Greenland

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London and Middlesex / Education for Sons of Worshipful Company of Vintners
« on: Thursday 21 September 17 19:18 BST (UK)  »
My ancestor was a member of the Worshipful Company of Vintners from 1790 through to about 1841 (his death). He lived in Stepney/Hackney/MEOT London during these years. Three sons were born to him in the late 1790's two of whom progressed to being members of the same Company when mature enough to do so. Where might these sons have been educated based on the father's location?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

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London & Middlesex Resources / Re: GRAVE INSCRIPTIONS-ST JOHN At HACKNEY CHURCH
« on: Sunday 18 June 17 10:35 BST (UK)  »
Please don't apologise, I am just happy that you were able to respond and understand now.  Thanks so much.  I am going to investigate Thomas Tame just in case there is anything of significance here.

Thank you again for help given.

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