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The Common Room / Re: ommission of mothers name
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jen B,
thanks for the wakeup! I hadn't realized that but many of the answers there could possibly apply so I'll take what I can get and mull over it until a light flashes!

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The Common Room / Re: ommission of mothers name
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:48 GMT (UK)  »
the father appears to be the informant [and maybe he was reluctant?]
place of birth is in the adjacent parish to the parish that the church baptism is recorded.
its a township perched on the edge of the center of the parish where that parishes church is located.
Now I don't know if a marriage was preformed at that church between ggf #2 & ggm # 2 since the records are not available to me for cost reasons. From what I have thus far developed, the likelihood of a marriage having taken place seems doubtful at best - and I can add that many other parallel lineages stemming from this, all have had great difficulty in determining the identity of ggm # 2, to the extent that there are several contenders all dutifully supported by some unprovable assertions that this is she named so and so.
Well that just isn't so. From the coded entries in the church register margins [explained by the transcriber as seen above] that record ggf # 1's baptism we can find the guilty female.
Her family moved from the place of baptism [ the margin mark indicates this] and she was found in the adjoining parish as a child.
Hope that helps - I'm doing this alone, so no good asking for the other parallel lineages since there's toooooo much dissension  and who am I to change what is?

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The Common Room / Re: ommission of mothers name
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:13 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for replies.
scrolling thru common room archives [page 4] i found an interesting post by op snowball 05/01/16 on same subject, so see many answers there.
my post concerns an original imaged copy of a birth cert sent to me - it is a certificate - not a parish register entry and that was later used to verify the birth was recorded in the church from a cd produced by the church incumbent for his masters degree [social science 2005] where he transcribed the church records.
The event took place in Cheshire 1852.
the b.cert section for the mothers name is empty. the penciled entry is scrawled diagonally across the cert and I believe was written by my fathers hand since I recognise the scrawl. Since he is no longer able to rely to the query, I'm hoping the experts at Rootschat can drum up some suitable answers just to unravel one more oddity in the family past!
have at it please and thankyou kindly.

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The Common Room / Re: Availability of Parish Registers
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:33 GMT (UK)  »
Dm Tomo the op raises a valid point and it is interesting to read the various opinions cast out by the audience, but that original point is really to do with what we the 'public' actually receive in exchange for having govts control our lives.
Of course ALL records should be openly available not subjected to the whims of various persons with selective purposes.
You paid for those records with your taxes and to have them offered at a price is tantamont to double billing. Would you pay for your tv license twice?
For us who can't access the record halls or such as we live far away the price and efforts demanded of us to enable the purpose we require such records to be available is extortionate.
Perhaps it would be of more sense to remember that the church and govt belongs to us and not we to them - and thus they should do our bidding in an open manner.
Free BMD and its partner sites exemplifies the best of purposes unlike so many of the moneygrabbing  gen sites.
But that's just my opinion and my 2 cents worth!
Keep at it DM Tomo - never admit you are not free.

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The Common Room / Re: So interesting... genetic disposition for mental health issues
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 10:47 GMT (UK)  »
Absolutely a genetic cause for so-called lunacy, I have found plenty that would qualify under present day thinking in 2 families I am looking at.
probably more reasons today to indict persons for the slightest hint of difference from standard model of citizen wanted by govts.
I guess in the past a more drastic appreciation was needed to classify me or you as 'committable'
so are we better off or not? ;D :'(
have a ball before they take it away!

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The Common Room / ommission of mothers name
« on: Saturday 13 February 16 10:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Folks,
my ggrandfathers birth cert has the name of his father included but omits the name of his mother.
the original imaged copy of the birth cert has a name pencilled onto it. That name was found and agrees with the birth cert. GGF #1 was born in one parish [the home of his mothers family] and recorded in an adjacent parish the location of his father GGF #2. GGF#2 s own mothers father resided in the parish GGF #1 was born in. Looks as though he was born on his grandfathers farm.
The motherGGM #2 later joined GGF #2 at his location and there they stayed.
Question: why would the mothers name be omitted from the birth cert? Or is it possible another female was actually the mother and refused to be named? All answers very welcome. Thankyou

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Kildare / Chandler Families of Kildare
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hello ,
I'm looking for any info on James Chandler born 1810 Kilcock parents and or siblings unknown
and Henry Chandler believed born about 1810 no info on background but married to a Maria Connors. Marriage believed to have taken place about 1830 + but no certificate found yet.
All Chandler info seen thus far doesn't allow for these 2 anywhere in Meath or Maynooth etc. which seem to have been the family bases.
Wexford and Dublin Chandlers already ruled out.
Possible that the names are for one person ie Henry James or James Henry ??
Thanx
Rodc

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Wexford / grand jury verdict 1844
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 08:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi .. need some help here...
while trolling thru uncounted random phrases & pages re my subject, I happened on a snippet from the Wexford Independent dated 11 Dec 1844.
A grand jury had deliberated and rendered a verdict presumably that day.
Verdict was 'acquitted by reason of insanity' and court decided prisoner would be held pending further action.
The charge was murder.
While scribbling the above for myself I didn't take note of the webpage or search term or where found on page. And despite a heap of effort can't raise it again.
What I would really like to know is: the name of the victim - location of residence - name of the acquitted and his eventual disposition.
I have a guy who simply disappeared leaving wife and 4 kids. He had a real good job with excellent perks. There's no BMD of him to be found - as if the slate was wiped clean.
I have another guy same surname died Carlow Insane Asylum buried 23 Dec 1844 - suicide  - with no known birthplace provable - no known family seen - no known burial spot found
Only known sign of guy #1 having lived is his name on a child's birth cert.
Only known sign of guy # 2 is note in burial register.
I have to think that they are one and same since guy # 1 spouse's birth date is 1810 [est] and guy #2 was born 1810 according to burial cert.
Don't know if my guy #2 was the one but some of the Govt Returns for Wexford show one suicide noted in 1844 statistics from Carlow Asylum so seems likely he was the one indicated.
Thanx a bunch for reading and if you can help please do
Rodc ???

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The Common Room / Re: fabricated family trees
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:31 GMT (UK)  »
thanks for those answers & just to expand the issue a tad: the occurance of this is very recent and quite deliberate. Indeed one of the culprits claims considerable experience at research and wot-not and is I suspect a vested member of a well established society - not this one or any connected with it - the other individual appears to have 'bought' the scam and thus is actively involved.
A simple cease and desist order will not suffice, I'm guessing - so any thoughts on possible remedies will be thoughtfully contemplated...
rodc

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