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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Vanishing Relatives
« on: Wednesday 10 January 18 10:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kim

Here is some information I have about Elizabeth Bluett, you probably have a lot of it, so sorry if I am passing on things you already know.  Elizabeth wasn't John's daughter although she took his name later. I know very little about John Bluett. The only records that I can find which I am sure is him are the 1841c and his marriage to Elizabeth Yendall. John is living with Elizabeth and the two oldest children William and John in the Tiverton and Dulverton registration district. He is described as an ag lab. The family is living at Partips/Partrigs? Farm. His death record (if this is the right John Bluett) Text: Name:   John Blue_T [John Bluett] Date of Registration:   Jan-Feb-Mar 1844 Registration District:   Tiverton Inferred County:   Devonshire Volume:   10 Page:   224 Free BMD.
Elizabeth Jane Passmore (Bluett) was born on the 17th of September 1848 at Kings Brompton in the registration District of Tiverton and Dulverton Somerset. This means he died about 5yrs before Elizabeth was born.

On the 1851c Elizabeth age 2, living in Back Lane, Barnstaple, Devon with her mother who is calling herself Eliza Passmore and her father William Passmore. There are four older Bluett children: William age 13, John age11, Mary age 9 and Robert age 7. This is the only time Elizabeth is recorded as Passmore, by the time of the next census she is recorded as Elizabeth Jane Bluett. Her birth was, I think unusually, registered by her father William Passmore - he made his mark. On the record he states that the mother of the child is Elizabeth Passmore late Bluitt formerly Yandell. I can't find any record of a marriage between Elizabeth and William and however long the relationship lasted he is not with the family on the next census.

1861c Elizabeth Jane is living in Salop Street, Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales with her mother who is now Elizabeth Walters, her step father William Walters and half sister Mary Ann Bluett age 19. Elizabeth, age 12 is a lacemaker.

1863 On the 13th of December 1863, age 16, Elizabeth Jane Bluett and Patrick Mullaney married at the registry office in Stoke Damerel Devon. Rank or Profession ; Lace Maker Residence at time of marriage: 7, St John Street, Devonport Father’s Name and Surname; John Bluett (deceased) Father’s Rank or Profession; Gardener (journeyman) at Exeter, Devon. Elizabeth lied about her age on the marriage certificate, she was in fact 16 at the time of the marriage not 18 and a quarter as the certificate states.

1865 Birth of John Mullaney in Devonport
1866 Birth of Patrick Mullaney in Elizabeth Cork
1867 Birth of Robert Alfred Mullaney. On the 23rd of November 1867 Robert Alfred Mullaney was born in Church Road, Murston, Sub –district, Milton, Sittingbourne, Kent.
1871 Birth of Peter Mullaney Plymouth Devon
1873 Birth of Margaret Mullaney Plymouth Devon
1875 Birth of Elizabeth Mullaney Plymouth Devon

1871 this census records Elizabeth, Patrick and the children living at 1, Alice Street, Plymouth, Devon. The birthplace of the fourth child Peter (3 months old in census) is recorded as Plymouth. Rank or Profession (Elizabeth) Chair caning

Sometime after the birth of Elizabeth in 1875 the family moved to Durham.

William Patrick died on the 5th of April 1879 at 48, Long Row, Monkwearmouth. I don't know if Elizabeth and the children were living with him at the time but by the time of the 1881c she was living with William Linskey.

1881 this census records Elizabeth Linsky living at 16 Oak Street in Hedworth Monkton and Jarrow, South Shields, Durham. With William Linsky a coalminer b. 1852 in Winlaton, Durham. Elizabeth has "taken" William's name and given all the children the name of Linskey as well. Patrick, now age 15, and a coalminer; Robert, age 13, also a coalminer; Peter, age 10, a scholar, and two more children Margaret age 8 and Elizabeth age six. Both the girls are recorded as scholars. The two girls were born in Plymouth. John, Elizabeth and Patrick’s eldest son is not on the census but there is a possible record for John in 1881. Living at the Barracks, Barrack St, Sunderland, Durham, John is a Private. (RG11; Piece: 5001; Folio: 25; Page: 43) Everyone on the census record has the name Linsky but I think it is safe to assume that all the children living with Elizabeth and William at this time are Patrick’s children. The younger of the two girls, Elizabeth, was born about 1875 and that would put the Mullaney family still in Plymouth until after this date.

1891 by the time of this census Elizabeth is living at 3, Railway Row, Heworth Durham. None of the six Mullaney children are living at this address. Elizabeth has three children, Florence N Linskey age 8, born 1883 in Washington, Nora A Linskey age 4 b. 1887 in Sunderland and Lillian F Linskey age 1 b. Jarrow.

Elizabeth married William in 1893 at Gateshead in Durham.

The 1901 census record for Elizabeth, age 52, has her living in Elvet Durham with William and five children. All Linskey children, the youngest is 5. William's occupation is recorded as; Common Lodging house Keeper.

I have a couple of certificates I can send you if you would like them and I would love to see the newspaper article.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Vanishing Relatives
« on: Tuesday 09 January 18 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Kim, Just read your message. Thank you for your information and post.  I do have info I will share  and would love to see your pictures.  Give me a day or two and I will get it all together.

Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Wigan and Upholland
« on: Thursday 16 January 14 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
John Taylor marriage Record states:
Banns of Marriage between John Taylor & Ann Pilkington … 11th, 25th of May etc
John Taylor of the Parish of Wigan, Weaver
Ann Pilkington also of the Parish spinster
Married by Joseph Eaton curate
Witnesses John Moorfield and James Corless

Durham / Re: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Monday 02 July 12 12:17 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Alan for all this information. I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail but it is really exciting and I am going to follow up on the leads you have given me.  It's as though more and more pieces of the puzzle are coming together.

The baptisms are really really useful, I had found some of them on Family Search but they don't give all the information that you have given me, for example William's Parish and birthplace. Please can you tell me where you found them?

The baptism for John Burn in '41 is interesting  too because William Tinmouth/Tynesmouth  is the second husband of  Elizabeth Bainbridge John's grandmother. He is living with William and Elizabeth on the '61c.

Thank you again

Durham / Re: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Monday 02 July 12 11:59 BST (UK)  »
Thank you janis for the burials, I am still working on the Biddick connection.  South Biddick sounds like an interesting place in the early 18c. Apparently Biddickers were a rough lot who intimidated excise officers and pressgangs. from:
The population declined to 74 people by the time of the '41c.  The enumerator explains that all the pit men and their families left because Biddick collieries were becoming exhausted.  Perhaps thats why the family had moved to Wasington

Durham / Re: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 12:08 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so very much for this. I think this is really going somewhere. William's family have been a brick wall of mine for some time.

I found 2 marriages on GENUKI which I think make some sense of Elizabeth Brough/Jackson and fit with your findings.  They are:

Both marriages below are Penshaw Church of all Saints
25 Dec 1777  John Jackson = Elizabeth Brough from GENUKI
24 Oct 1784  Henry Holt = Elizabeth Jackson from GENUKI

I also thought that if I could get to some of the family on the '41c this might make the link between Elizabeth Douglass on the '61c born Biddick and the Elizabeth Holt baptised Penshaw All Saints of Biddick.
No luck so far but will keep trying.


Durham / COMPLETED THANKS ALLRe: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Friday 29 June 12 07:10 BST (UK)  »
just completing I think!

Durham / Re: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Thursday 28 June 12 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Yet again and again many thanks Stan a very useful site,

Whatever else family history research is doing to me (keeping me awake at night, boring my family and friends, pestering people on RootChat etc.) its certainly keeping my brain working (I hope!). Perhaps its time to post a new thread to see if anyone can track William Holt Douglass's parents and/or christening.

Thank you

Durham / Re: Married in the church before it was built?
« on: Thursday 28 June 12 17:24 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks again Stan, I now have the marriage.  I got it from Family Search.  Am I right in thinking that if I could get access to the original record it would have the names of the  bride and groom's fathers? The reason I ask is N&DFHS has a transcript of Monkwearmouth St. Peter marriages 1583-1837.  If there is more information it might be worth getting it.

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