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London and Middlesex / Re: Help with an address in Lambeth please
« on: Saturday 01 July 23 21:36 BST (UK)  »
That’s great, thanks everyone.
I’ll have a look on Google to see if there any old photos.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Help with an address in Lambeth please
« on: Saturday 01 July 23 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Much appreciated thanks guys.
Now I need to find it on a map !!

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London and Middlesex / Re: Help with an address in Lambeth please
« on: Saturday 01 July 23 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Ah that’s interesting.
The certificate is a copy of the original entry rather than a recent handwritten one.
It clearly says East Street.

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London and Middlesex / COMPLETED THANKS
« on: Saturday 01 July 23 14:08 BST (UK)  »
I’ve just received a birth certificate for someone in 1873 but I’m struggling to find the location of the address.
I realise street names changed and places were demolished but if anyone could help I would be very grateful.
I’d like to find it on a map !

It is…….  1,New Street Cottages, New Street, East Street, Lambeth.

How many ‘Streets’ does one person need in an address ?!!!!

Many thanks

Update, New Street was off Princes Street so we’re getting nearer !

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Ok, I’ve amended the heading now.

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I thought I’d just ask first to see if anyone visits the Nat. Archives then I would give them all the details.
It is William Allen Evans, born 1833.
He joined in 1853 for 12 years and ended his service in 1865.
I have his attestation papers which give the Court Martial date as 1863 and C.M book number 5, page 7.
J.

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They say, “All the girls love a sailor” but I have a very naughty one in ‘my lot’ !
I need some help though please.

He joined the RMLI in 1853 for a period of 12 years, some of which were here in Falmouth harbour, on a gunship which had been turned into a coastguard vessel.

I paid Nat. Archive’s fee for a download of his RMLI attestation records (sadly no service records though)  but they make fantastic reading !

He had ‘BAD’ conduct which is so much more fun to read about than a guy with good conduct (in my opinion anyway !!)

He was often drunk, using disgusting language, theft, disobeying orders, constantly late back from shore leave and disappearing for several days at at time, one time he was bought back to the ship by Police.
Also, very often absent from the ship and even using insolent and profane language while attending Divine Service, and more !

He had pay and leave deducted, was confined to barracks and also spent time in prison somewhere doing ‘hard labour’.

In 1859 he was ‘deficient of battle medal’ so I wonder what that was for.

Once, while he was ‘missing’ he actually married a local girl who became pregnant. Presumably, when he was late back to the ship, he was with her.

When he’d finished his time here, in 1862, he went off on another ship and abandoned her and the baby. That baby is my line.
After completing his 12 years service he ended up back in his hometown in London, remarried (bygamy?) and had a new family.

This is what I need help with….
He was Court Martialled in 1863 and I have the book and page number of the event but sadly the Nat. Archives have not yet had it digitised for download.

I would have to visit in person for a copy of it but I live hundreds of miles away so it’s not an option.
I wondered if anyone was planning to go there soon and could obtain this for me please, all costs reimbursed of course !

Thankyou in advance, hopefully 🤞

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Cornwall / Re: Lying about being a widow on a marriage certificate?
« on: Friday 09 June 23 15:25 BST (UK)  »
That’s interesting, thanks everyone.
My chap was only ‘missing’ for less than 3 years !

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Cornwall / Lying about being a widow on a marriage certificate?
« on: Friday 09 June 23 11:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,
I’d like to hear your thoughts on this please…..

A lady in Penryn met a man in the Royal Marines who was serving on a ship docked in Falmouth harbour.
They married in 1860 in Penryn.
A few months later he is there on the 1861 census, still aboard the ship.

In 1862 they have a baby.
In 1865 she remarries but uses her maiden name and calls herself a ‘widow’.

But …….
I know for certain she wasn’t a widow because I have his service records and in 1863 he changed ships, so I assume he left Falmouth.

His service conduct was appalling - constantly drunk, using foul language, disobedience of orders, and theft. Also, leaving the ship to go ashore when he shouldn’t have many times, often being brought back by Police !

His term of service ended in 1865 so it seems he decided to leave his young wife and baby to go back to London where he came from.
She wouldn’t have seen a body or had a burial because he was still alive so if he just disappeared could she claim he was dead and legally remarry ?

Presumably back then the vicar didn’t need proof she was a widow. She certainly didn’t have a death certificate!

He is back in London by 1871, remarried with several more children (bigamy ?!).

Thanks,
J.x

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