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Argyllshire / Burials on lismore
« on: Monday 06 September 21 18:05 BST (UK)  »
I believe we have traced my husbands McMillan roots to the isle of Lismore. A marriage in Ardnarmurchan in 1819 places the groom, Dugald Macmillan as a shepherd of Lismore. Te youngest child of the marriage is subsequently baptised at Lismore in 1831. Dugald dies some time before 1838 when his wife remarries. As he appears to have returned to his family home by 1831 together with the desire to be buried with your forefathers I am working on the assumption that he is buried on Lismore.

No burial records survive and I am just wondering if there are any monumental inscriptions which may exist/have been recorded for the 1830,s?   We are currently on holiday in Strontian (from Pembrokeshire) which we had believed to be the family roots but recent discoveries have now directed us to Lismore.

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Friday 07 May 21 13:40 BST (UK)  »
agree but where is Mary McPherson/McMillan/McLauglin in 1851 and 1861 (unless he was actually a widow but didnt know?). On Ann Stewart's death certificate, her husband Alan was able to enter her father's name as Dugald but didnt know her mother's name. Bit surprising as we believe her father to have died back in the 1830's and yet her mother is believed to have still been around in the 1850/60s.  I had been hoping to find death records for John, Janet or Angus (siblings on the 1841 census) to try and corroborate our thoughts but they seem to have completely disappeared.

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Wednesday 05 May 21 22:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica - I also saw the birth record for Ann - Ann Stewart nee Mcmillan consistantly records her birth as 1823 so perhaps it was a child that didnt survive? ( that is of course assuming Dougald and Mary McPherson are the right parents!!)


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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Wednesday 05 May 21 20:52 BST (UK)  »
Monica that is amazing!! appreciate it needs corroboration but its a very likely line to follow up. Knowing that Hugh was actually 18 I was thinking that Mary was too young to be his mother but of course even at 17 years old she would have been old enough and indeed could have been almost 20. I looked for them in 1851 and didnt find them as a couple although I may have identified Archibald in the 1861.
Archibald Mclachlin married cotton dyer age 50 born Argyll Ardnarmurchan living in Glasgow as a lodger. It says married rather than widowed so perhaps a search for Mary is my next challenge. Guess if I could find her death any previous names might be listed. Your help is very much appreciated - I have been getting a bit down hearted about ever making any headway but now there are very definate lines to follow.

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 22:34 BST (UK)  »
As I say though, may be a good theory but not going to be able to prove it. George Mcmillan is my husbands g grandfather. We therefore did the DNA of my mother in law as George was her grandfather, in the hope that we might come across a descendant of a Mcmillan - no such luck as yet. Think my next task will be to try and trace the other siblings from the 1841 census - John, Angus and Janet. Have Angus and Janet in 1851 ( janet living with Ann Stewart and Angus living with Hugh McMillan) but have not got them in subsequent census nor John at all. Had hoped to find a death record for one of them after 1855 which might give parentage details. Hugh died between 1851 and 1855 and when Ann died her husband knew the father's name but not her mothers's!!  Thank you for all your help - if you have any Welsh connections you need any assistance with just let me know!!

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 21:49 BST (UK)  »
Funny that George Taylor should live in Roscoe Street cos Roscoe is my surname!! Re George Taylor as father's name - I too have been thinking along those lines although I have recently come up with an alternative theory which unfortunately I cannot prove. I have searched for George McMillan in 1871 census and cannot find him. Based on his baptism as living in Trowbridge Street, Everton, I trawled through the whole street in case there were transcription errors.Didnt find a Mcmillan but I came across an entry for a George Taylor aged 2 born Liverpool son of George Taylor and Rebecca Taylor. Now I have researched George and Rebecca Taylor (nee Barber) and as far as can see they were a childless couple having been married since 1848 and no children recorded on any of the preceding census.Nor is there a record of a George Taylor being born in  1868/69 with a mother's maiden name of Barber My theory is that Catherine and her baby had boarded with the Taylors since his birth and in acknowledgment/thanks she gave her son the middle name of Taylor when he was baptised at 1 year old. In 1871 she herself is in service on the Wirral. In 1881 young George is still in Trowbridge Street but lodging with another family.
Re James McArthur Mclaren - his parents were Peter Weir Mclaren and Mary Mcmillan. Mary was the daughter of Hugh Mcmilland and Catherine McArthur. If my belief is correct this would mean that James was in fact George's first cousin once remove.  We have a book gifted to George McMillan by his cousin Aggie and she turns out to be the daughter of Ann(sometimes Agnes) Stewart nee Mcmillan. Hugh and Ann were siblings and I believe Catherine was a younger sibling so this would make Aggie and George full cousins.

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 18:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica - she claimed to be a widow and her son on his marriage certificate stated his father (whom he never knew) was called George, an engineer. This was always assumed to be true. However with the benefit of ancestry etc - we now know more about her and it appears that on the 1871 and 1881 census in Liverpool she is unmarried and working in service. Her son, also called George, was boarded out to presumably enable her to work. By 1881, he was working and mother and son were living together( recorded as widow on 1881) - no place of birth ever provided for her other than Scotland. Young George however kept in contact presumably via his mother, with two "cousins" neither of which were Mc Millans however having traced them back - it is their grandparents who were brother and sister mc millans. Bit of a giant leap but I am working on the premiss that his mother Catherine was a younger sibling of Hugh and Ann McMillan. And as i say I have the 1841 where Hugh and Ann are recorded with a younger siblings, John Janet Catherine and Angus. Have been looking for baptism
 records to tie all together but have not been successful. Re the baby George, always recorded as born Liverpool - have baptism record (no father mentioned) but no official birth record - baptism recorded birth as 2nd October 1868.

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 16:39 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Monica - def not dismissing your find!!  Not too sure how to respond on roots chat to individual messages - seems only one reply button but I have received messages from a number of people. Just put the background to my search to explain where I am at. The baptism entered by Forfarian looks promising and your 1851 find also promising. Paisley being not that far from Cardross. I had picked up the Catherine and Catharine entries in the 1851 but missed this Cathrine entry. My Catherine was in service in Liverpool in 1871 and her young son was boarded out. If this is the correct entry in Paisley then I need to try and find her in 1861 - it may be that she had already moved to Liverpool rather than "ran away" when she found herself pregnant. Always assumed she had arrived in Liverpool with a young baby but this may be wrong. Baby doens t seem to have been registered in Scotland or England although was baptised in Liverpool when a year old. Thanks again for your help - this search has been ongoing for years!!!
We had hoped that DNA might help but as yet not luck down this avenue

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Argyllshire / Re: help with reading a census entry
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 14:06 BST (UK)  »
Replying to Forarian -  thanks for this - not sure how I have managed to miss it. Trying to trace Catherine McMillan G G grandmother - turns up in Liverpool in 1868 with a young baby - claims to be widow. Baby grows up having close connections with "cousins" whose grandparents I have successfully backtraced to Cardross in 1851 (their births locations being giving a Morvern) and also to same street in 1841 where they are living as children with an apparently unrelated young couple. The "grandparents" were Hugh and Ann McMillan born Movern 1826 and 1823. I know from a death certificate that Ann's father was Donald. Hugh died between 1851 - 1855 and no known death record. In 1841, there were other siblings John (b 1831) Janet (b 1832) Catherine (b.1833) and Angus (b.1836) I am therefore working on the assumption (until I prove otherwise!) that the Catherine born 1833, sibling to Hugh and Ann is my missing Catherine. Trying now to identify Catherine on the interim census for 1851 and 1861. Many thanks for your help

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