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The Common Room / Re: The mysterious changing lady - help please
« on: Sunday 11 September 11 23:48 BST (UK)  »
I dont have any direct interest in this family, but your posts caught our attention as we have an ancestor born 1828, Jane JOHNS nee COOK, living Saltash Cornwall on every census from 1851, listed as a widow, and having children (my gg grandma in 1854). She married in 1846, and I believe was widowed in 1850. Jane takes charge in 1861 of an Adelaide COOK born 1856 in the Paddington/Marylebone area (possibly Albert Terrace). There have long been stories about someone in this generation being a mistress in London, hence our interest in your story.

Looking at the census returns my attention was caught by M. Eugenie SEYMOUR's next door neighbour in 1891. He was Robert Richardson GARDENER, "living on MY own means"! Presumably he was the enumerator. Further investigation shows him listed in 1881 living on Grosvenor Sq, Robert RICHARDSON-GARDENER, Member of Parliament, and I believe in 1851 and 1861 he is Robert RICHARDSON student at Middle Temple(1851), and Barrister not practicing(1861).

Additionally there appears to be a split on this road of 'normal' families and occupations, and of young people in their 20's employing servants and working as artists/painters/ musicians.
Maybe this is of no relevance, but food for thought?
Mike

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One Name Studies: T to Z / Re: WAGSTAFF, All
« on: Monday 20 December 10 16:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Grothenwell,
Thanks for your prompt response. I have been looking at the family of James and Elizabeth. I believe that not only was son John a blacksmith, but also John's son James who we find living at Much Cowarne in 1841 and 1851. I have nothing to substantiate for sure.

I was wondering if James, was baptised in 1755 the son of John and Mary at Mathon. Also at Mathon is a possible Richard who married Elizabeth WILKES in 1737. Then we find Richard and Elizabeth baptising children from 1738 in Bishampton. My theory would be that John and Richard would be brothers or first cousins. However at the moment no where enough info to
substantiate this. But it would link the two lots of blacksmiths together!

Also at Bishops Frome in 1859 William, blacksmith, son of James, blacksmith of Much Cowarne marries Maria WILKINS

Looks like a trip to Worcester and Hereford records might be needed!

Mike

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One Name Studies: T to Z / Re: WAGSTAFF, All
« on: Monday 20 December 10 14:44 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching Richard WAGSTAFF, blacksmith, who married Ann BIDDLE of Bushley, Worcs at Longdon by Upton, Worcestershire on 1 Feb 1768. I seem to be going round in circles looking for this Richard, with numerous families in the Worcs/Herefordshire border areas and further afield.
Richard and Ann baptised 3 sons in Bushley, with Ann being buried in 1773. Richard then moved to Newbold Pacey in Warwickshire, where he was buried in 1821 aged 79.

Could this be the Richard baptised Bishampton, Worcs in 1741?

There is also a marriage 18 July 1768 of Edward WAGSTAFF to Mary WILKINS where Richard WAGSTAFF is the witness. Brothers? The children of Edward and Mary bear very similar names, albeit not unusual, to the family of Richard and his two wives (2nd marriage 1784 leamington Hastings, Warks)

Any help on tracing my Richard would be gratefully received  :)
Thanks MIke

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