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Lincolnshire / Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
« on: Tuesday 12 December 17 09:53 GMT (UK)  »
The collective noun for butchers is a goring...which is what this family has done to me since I began the search for John Arliss, butcher in 2008....a mere 9 years ago.
Findmypast just solved it I believe....John Arliss bap Louth, 1790, son of Matthew Arliss (butcher) and Sarah Harrison who married 1777 in Louth.
Matthew, George and William...all butchers...were the sons of Thomas Arlis and Anne Coupland...now, if only I could find the earlier generation.

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Lincolnshire / Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 13:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou one and all,

That knocks out my hypothesis that John Arliss (died 1847) took over the business from George Arliss.

Butchery is clearly an Arliss trade though. As well as the two Johns and George mentioned in my original post there's also a William in 1841.

Given that I have Arliss's in two different branches of my tree, and an ever growing spread sheet of hundreds of them, I'll persevere.

Thanks again


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Lincolnshire / Re: Wilkinson Dent
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 13:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Trish,

A case of "come up and see my last" one suspects.

I still sense that Wilkinson Dent was renamed Thomas Sargent after the Henry/Harriet marriage in 1832.

Thomas Sargent appears in later censuses as a joiner (Henry's trade) though his birthplace varies between Hull (where H and H married) and Louth (where two of their other children were born). No Thomas was born 1827ish in those places in my sources and I can exclude the Marshchapel Thomas b 1827.

Its a tad tenuous, but so much is, isn't it

John

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Lincolnshire / John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
« on: Friday 12 February 16 09:44 GMT (UK)  »
I have long sought John Arliss' parents.

 John Arliss, butcher, was born about 1789 or 90 based on his death age 57 in 1847.

He married Sarah Hockney in 1818 and ran a butchery on Walkergate, Louth (one of 2 on that street) which was taken over by surviving family.

I am dubious of others' interpretation of his parents as John Arliss and Mary Dobson (their son John was b 1787 in Yarburgh). Here's why:

1828 and 29 Pigotts Directories have a George Arliss, butcher on the same street (Walkergate) but George has gone by the 1841 census. John may have taken this business over from George . It may even have been a long term family enterprise because George Arliss was apprenticed to a John Arliss, butcher, even earlier (1773).

So, I'm wondering if John Arliss could be a son of George Arliss and Bellamy Atkin who married in Louth in 1784...even though I can't find a record of his birth.

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Lincolnshire / Wilkinson Dent
« on: Friday 12 February 16 02:30 GMT (UK)  »
FreeReg has a Wilkinson Dent baptised 27 Feb 1827 in Keelby, Lincs, son of Harriet Dent and shown as illegitimate. One might guess that the father was a Wilkinson, but he is not named in the record, simply listed as a servant.

In 1832, a Harriet Dent married my ggGrandfather Henry Sargent, a Master carpenter of Marshchapel, and she appears in various Broughton censuses as born Keelby.

 I cannot identify any child of their's with an 1827 birthdate in censuses from 1851 onwards though they have a Thomas Sargent, age 14, with them in 1841 Broughton...predates their marriage and suggests an 1827 birthdate. But, given Henry's trade, this could have been a nephew.

Can anyone shed any light on Wilkinson Dent please?

John Sergeant


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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Simpson- Holt
« on: Saturday 21 February 09 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again - I'll start a "possibles" spreadsheet with those.

In the meantine, I'll get back to the task of proving that my Australian mother-in-law must have had convict ancestry. Still kicking myself for proving that her gt grandparents were not half brother and sister as she thought.

John

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Simpson- Holt
« on: Saturday 21 February 09 01:50 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the parents of Joseph Simpson and Susannah Holt whose 7 August 1809, Norton Cuckney marriage was given to me by someone on here a year ago.

1841 Worksop census has both NOT born in county, but 1851 has Jos 62 and Sus 64 , both born in Worksop...ie born in the 1787-1789 period. Their children were born in Worksop from 1810.

Neither IGI nor FreeREG has Worksop or Cuckney baps pre 1814. After 1814 Cuckney has both the Holt and Simpson names..a James Simpson had 10 kids there 1818- 1835 and an Ann Holt was bap there in 1825.

IGI Cuckney also has a John Simpson - Mary Turner marr 19/1/1771..  possible parents for my Joseph.

The only online clue I can find for Susannah Holt is the 16/11/1787 IGI Mattersey bap, dau of William and Mary. Mattersey seems to be one of those close to county border places which might explain the 1841 "not born in county". There is another bap in Newark 1790...a bit far away??

Any ideas?

John Sergeant
Sydney Aus

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: harriet booth wright
« on: Sunday 07 December 08 23:35 GMT (UK)  »
I agree, and you can't discount that Harriet was born out of wedlock.

Other related info...

A Harriet Bulmer was buried 4 July 1832 , age 38, Thorpe St Peter...NBI

George Bulmer (wid) m Frances Tinkler 20/9/1832 Croft...Cal deanery marriages

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: harriet booth wright
« on: Sunday 07 December 08 12:49 GMT (UK)  »
And here are the male Wright marriages in Calcewaith deanery 1700-1800

WRIGHT JAMES"   "HICKMAN ANNE"   "17010309"   "ALFORD
WRIGHT THOMAS"   "HILDRED ANNE"   "17490503"   "ALFORD
WRIGHT GEORGE"   "TAYLOR ANNE"   "17301231"   "AUTHORPE"
WRIGHT THOMAS"   "SCRYMSHIRE SUSANNA"   "17370502"   "BEESBY
WRIGHT JOHN            SIBRIGHT ELIZABETH"   "17220605"   "BILSBY
WRIGHT JOHN           JACKSON ELIZABETH"   "17230920"   "BILSBY
WRIGHT JOHN            LITTLEBY ANNE"   "17351214"   "BILSBY"
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "MALKINSON SARAH"   "17490427"   "CLAXBY BY ALFORD
WRIGHT EDWARD"   "PAPE BRIDGET"    "17350706"   "CROFT
WRIGHT WM               WILLIAMS SARAH"   "17180515"   "FRISKNEY
WRIGHT PHILLIP"   "TICKLER FAITH"   "17190402"   "FRISKNEY
WRIGHT JOHN             APETHORPE HANNAH"   "17501210"   "MALTBY LE MARSH
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "DAWSON ELIZABETH"   "17510528"   "MUMBY
WRIGHT JOHN            MELL MARTHA"   "17010306"   "ORBY
WRIGHT EDWARD"   "SCUFFAM SUSANNA"   "17400430"   "SKEGNESS
WRIGHT JOHN             BRADLEY ELIZABETH"   "17110503"   "THORPE ST PETER
WRIGHT BENJAMIN"   "BROTHERTON MARY"   "17041121"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS
WRIGHT JOHN             CROFT ANN"   "17070612"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS"
WRIGHT SAMUEL"   "WRIGHT MARY"   "17370305"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS"
WRIGHT PHILIP WID"   "DAWSON ANNE"   "17520415"   "WAINFLEET ST MARY
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "WATSON MARY"   "17230601"   "WELL
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "HOLMS MARY"   "17021022"   "WILLOUGHBY
WRIGHT BENJAMIN"   "SWINGLER MARY"   "17360501"   "WILLOUGHBY"
WRIGHT BENJAMIN"   "BUFF SUSAN"   "17420429"   "WILLOUGHBY
WRIGHT BENJMAIN"   "HARE ELIZABETH"   "17480412"   "WILLOUGHBY
WRIGHT THOMAS WID"   "MUMBY MARGARET WID"   "17611204"   "ALFORD
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "BUFFAM ANN"   "17711122"   "ALFORD"
WRIGHT ROBERT"   "MILLS SUSANNA"   "17970517"   "ALFORD"
WRIGHT JOHN              PIMP SARAH"   "17810703"   "AUTHORPE
WRIGHT JACOB"   "CHEFFINGS REBECCAH WID"   "17741208"   "BELLEAU
WRIGHT CHARLES"   "BALDOCK REBECCA"   "17620121"   "BILSBY
WRIGHT ESAU               EMMET ALICE"   "17640506"   "BURGH LE MARSH
WRIGHT ROBERT"   "HOLLFOOT MARY"   "17710722"   "BURGH LE MARSH
WRIGHT GEORGE"   "SWEET ANN"   "17740118"   "BURGH LE MARSH
WRIGHT BENJAMIN"   "CHAPMAN ANN"   "17940704"   "BURGH LE MARSH
WRIGHT THOMAS"   "COULAM ANN"   "17980816"   "CLAXBY BY ALFORD
WRIGHT ROBERT WID"   "LEDGER JANE WID"   "17870213"   "FRISKNEY
WRIGHT CHARLES"   "BACKHOUSE JANE"   "17720827"   "HOGSTHORPE
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "SCARBOROUGH REBECCA"   "17621215"   "MABLETHORPE
WRIGHT FRANCIS"   "ATKIN SARAH WID"   "17740602"   "MABLETHORPE
WRIGHT RICHARD"   "BECKWORTH ELIZABETH"   "17580629"   "MUMBY
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "HOLMES ELIZABETH"   "17611019"   "MUMBY
WRIGHT THOMAS"   "CHEALES ANN"   "17540506"   "SKEGNESS
WRIGHT FRANCIS"   "TOWNEND MARY"   "17830708"   "SWABY
WRIGHT JOHN                    DAVISON MARY"   "17800503"   "THORPE ST PETER
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "MODSON ANNE"   "17590507"   "ULCEBY
WRIGHT BENJAMIN"   "MAW ELIZABETH"   "17640719"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS
WRIGHT GEORGE"   "BOYS ELIZABETH"   "17761030"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS
WRIGHT RICHARD"   "CORDON ROSALINDA"   "17850513"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS
WRIGHT SAMUEL"   "RICHARDSON MARY"   "18010104"   "WAINFLEET ALL SAINTS"
WRIGHT PHILIP"   "DAILS MARY"   "17721214"   "WAINFLEET ST MARY
WRIGHT WILLIAM"   "SIMPSON MARY"   "17810517"   "WAINFLEET ST MARY
WRIGHT PHILIP WID  DICKENSON SUSANNA"   "17860616"   "WAINFLEET ST MARY
WRIGHT PHILIP WID"WILKINSON ELIZABETH"   "18060411"   "WAINFLEET ST MARY
WRIGHT RICHARD"   "HARE ALICE"   "17580718"   "WILLOUGHBY
WRIGHT WILLIAM WID"WINGATE ELIZABETH WID"   "17820702"   "WINTHORPE

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