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Messages - J. Hemsley

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Could it be a ring-dove, or a pigeon?

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Though I've determined that the seal's bird most resembles the bird from plate 19 fig. 64. Though frustratingly, that bird is not named so I cannot identify it, again it comes from the above source. What do you think?

Are they the same? And what bird is pl 19, fig. 16 (remember it's not a crane/stork, bustard, dove nor raven)?


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I've been comparing the bird on this seal with some examples of birds in The British Herald by Thomas Robson (1830):
Bustard (plate10 fig.48), Crane (pl 11, fig. 39) Dove (pl 12, fig. 15) & Raven (pl 11, fig. 58) all from the following :
https://archive.org/stream/britishheraldor01robsgoog#page/n340/mode/2up

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Sussex / Re: Can someone from Lewes do me a favour?
« on: Thursday 07 February 13 05:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Chris, your work on this site is truly impressive! How have you been?

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Sussex / Re: Can someone from Lewes do me a favour?
« on: Wednesday 06 February 13 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
Never mind, someone has already done this for me.

I'm a bit disappointed, in the poor quality images it looked as if there was some sort of picture at the top of the gravestone and I had convinced myself that might have been a heraldic device...It's not, it's just 'sacred' written elaborately.  :'(

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Sussex / Can someone from Lewes do me a favour?
« on: Wednesday 06 February 13 01:44 GMT (UK)  »
Would anyone from Lewes be able to pop into the All Saints Centre, along Friars Walk, and take a digital photograph of headstone (pictured here) for me, and then email it to me?

I only have poor quality photos and cannot make out the picture at the top of the headstone....

It would be greatly appreciated!!

Kind Regards

J


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Hi Prue,
Should I not have re-posted this? I wasn’t sure whether folks who read the ‘Heraldry…’ thread necessarily also read the ‘Deciphering…’ thread? Trying to cast a wider net, I suppose.



To the other rootschatters (including Prue):

Does anyone have a comprehensive heraldic library, and the willingness, to help me in searching for a ‘Hemsley’ armiger. Possibly with a bird (of some sort) crest :-\

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So far the suggestions are as follows: Crane, stork, heron, magpie, raven, crow, great bustard, pigeon. Also, there was a suggestion that the tail looks like that of a ‘barn swallow’.

Personally, I have absolutely no idea at all…I thought it looks a little like a female pheasant.

Other suggestions?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Deciphering an old seal…
« on: Tuesday 01 May 12 11:42 BST (UK)  »
This is much clearer, though I still don't know what it is.....

Doesn't look like it's armigerous :-\ Must be just a seal.

Any ideas about what kind of bird it is?

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