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Surrey / Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« on: Tuesday 18 July 23 14:29 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for clearing up the mention of William Morgan`s wife in his will. Also the marriage of John Morgan-- I had missed that thread.
Have not found out anything about John Morgan as Chancellor of St. Davids. As I live in Pembrokeshire perhaps I should be able to.. Cannot find out anything about Elizabeth. Baroness Dowager, Abergavenny only a person of that name alive in the 15th century.
Still keen to find out more about John Morgan`s connection with Sion College

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Surrey / Re: MORGAN, William: St. Thomas, Southwark, gent. 1749
« on: Monday 17 July 23 19:34 BST (UK)  »
Having another look at my Gt X 4 grandfather William Morgan. Looking at his will I am rather puzzled by the passage "the said note now in my wife`s custody who refuses to deliver the same note to me" What can that mean? I had assumed that David Morgan was raised from "infancy" by his aunt and uncle because his mother had died. Perhaps that was not the case. I have realised that I do not have a DOB for William or his brother John or a date for their marriages.  Perhaps John Morgan`s involvement with Sion College might yield some clues. What was his role there? Could Herman Olmius and his wife Judith Drigue be benefactors of the college? Could they have helped with the cost involved sending David Morgan to Cambridge and then to study for a higher degree at Oxford? Rather a lot of questions!

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London and Middlesex / Re: Sion College,London
« on: Sunday 02 October 22 11:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that. I will try Clare College

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London and Middlesex / Re: Sion College,London
« on: Sunday 02 October 22 11:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that. I will try Clare College,Cambridge

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London and Middlesex / Sion College,London
« on: Sunday 02 October 22 10:06 BST (UK)  »
I would like to find out more about Sion College in London (see post "Too Many Morgans"). It was founded in 1650 for "the education and fellowship of C of E clergy". Was it a school with young pupils or was it a library where the clergy could go to study? I do not know where my ancestor David Walter Morgan (1733--1795) was educated prior to his entry to Cambridge (matric 1753).He was cared for by his uncle Rev. John Morgan (1698-1778) who was described as "being of Sion College" as his mother had died when he was young. If Sion College was not a school as such ,perhaps he was educated privately by his uncle.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Too many Morgans!
« on: Sunday 02 October 22 09:45 BST (UK)  »
Looking up clockmakers in Southwark there was a William Morgan who completed his apprenticeship in 1629 to his brother Richard Morgan (1598 --1650) from Penley,Co Flint,Wales.  My William Morgan could have been a descendant. The clock for sale in the auction was 18th century so perhaps my William Morgan was a clockmaker.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Too many Morgans!
« on: Wednesday 28 September 22 21:33 BST (UK)  »
It is referred to as a "college" rather than a "library" although there was a library there. There is also mention of it originally having apartments for students. The students could of course have been studying independantly in the library rather than attending formal courses.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Too many Morgans!
« on: Wednesday 28 September 22 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Sion College in the City of London was founded in 1630 for the education and fellowship of Church of England clergy. It was badly damaged in the Fire of London in 1666. If it operated as a charitable instituition then perhaps William Morgan did not need to be very well off to send his son there. Sending him to Cambridge might have been a different matter. Perhaps he could have got a scholarship or maybe this is where the Olmius family helped.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Too many Morgans!
« on: Wednesday 28 September 22 20:10 BST (UK)  »
That is really interesting. He is definitely the right William Morgan as the son David is exactly the right age to be my David Walter Morgan. So he was brought up by his uncle Rev John Morgan and his wife. I wonder where David was educated; could it have been Sion College? Was Rev John Morgan the headmaster? He went on to study at Cambridge which would have been very expensive. Perhaps the wealthy Herman Olmius provided the money for whatever reason. David was obviously indebted to him, naming his son John Drigue Morgan  after Olmius`s wife. I don`t quite follow what the "promissory note" is all about. Perhaps some research on Rev John Morgan might be rewarding.

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