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I just looked at the workhouse record and it definitely says 'to Lancaster'

Given that I have recently seen a workhouse record from around that time where a lady was discharged and it says 'to Whittingham' and that has turned out to be correct. I would think that he was most likely actually sent to what was known as Lancaster Moor Hospital, later Lancaster County Mental Hospital.
The National Archives site says that admission records are held at Lancs Archives
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1383&hospi

Though if you check the 1939 register it would seem that he may have been admitted at some stage to Rainhill. Those records (which possibly would have his medical history included but I can't be certain) are held at Liverpool Record Office. I had copies of records for a patient at Rainhill earlier this year from LRO and the cost was £25. Not sure if the 100 year rule about access covers date of birth or date of record?
Until the world returns to some sort of normality archives will not be open or taking orders for records.

Boo


Hi Boo,

Thanks for that reply. Yes I guess Lancaster must be the place so I'll have to see where that takes me. Thomas did end up in Rainhill and died there. His grandson requested details and copies from Liverpool records Office some years ago but there wasn't no information to be found which is strange but then again not all records are kept.

Some of his family had no knowledge of his whereabouts or the fact that he was alive until 1962.

thanks for your input

Andi

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Thanks I will look into it. I checked last night and they re opened on 6 Oct but may well be closing again now. I knew about the 100 year disclosure from last time.

Thanks again

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Hi,

Im looking for any record relating to Thomas Henry Willis Meyer who was discharged from Liverpool Workhouse to Lancaster on 24 Sept 1917 or possibly the day before.

I do not know for certain that Whittingham was the place he was sent to but think that is the likely place. Sadly his sister Florence, whose records I have been to LRO for, was admitted there in 1910 and she died there on 22 Jun 1917 shortly before Thomas was sent to Lancaster area.

If you are going I would be grateful for your help as I cannot get there myself at this time but no worries if you cant, it will wait.

Andrea


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Hi,

Is anyone going to the records office that would be willing to look up a patient being admitted to Whittingham Asylum?

Andrea

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Armed Forces / Can anyone identify this uniform from the collar alone?
« on: Monday 27 April 20 17:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Is there any way of identifying this uniform from the collar alone or would this have been used by more than one regiment?

Andi

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Gloucestershire / Re: Indenture and other information
« on: Friday 28 December 18 08:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, thanks for the replies, i will look again at the archives.
The name on the indenture is Thomas Skeaping. His son Richard and grandson John (son of his first born son Thomas) sign the indenture.
I know Thomas married Ann Isaac
02 Jul 1769 • St Phillip & St Jacobs, Bristol, Gloucester, England (3 children). He re marries Barbara Jones 22 Dec 1782 • St. Ewen'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England (5 children).
 I have found no death for Ann or any of their children. I know son Thomas (1st marriage) survived and Richard and Elizabeth(2nd marriage) survived.
A relative visited Bristol archives and despite finding births no deaths could ( of his children) could be found even with help from archive staff.
I'm stumped.
Andi

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Gloucestershire / Indenture and other information
« on: Thursday 27 December 18 22:00 GMT (UK)  »
I have a copy on cd of an indenture (lease and release I think) from 1833 which talks of property/messuages in Bristol. It also mentions 3 other indentures dated 30 Sept 1793, 24 Jun 1795 and 26 Aug 1812.
Am I ever likely to find these indentures? I'm thinking not but someone may know more.

Also the deceased person on the 1833 document was a salt refiner in Bristol until his death in 1818 but I can't find much information about about him apart from marriage and baptisms. Surely someone that owned property would have left some kind of paper trail??
Any clues on where I could search for more information?

Andi


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Ross & Cromarty / Re: What can I hope to find on a christening record?
« on: Sunday 17 June 18 19:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Louisa,

I have Donald's marriage record as they were based in Liverpool (apart from the elusive birth!) and it only names his father.

His parents Kenneth and Margaret also married in Liverpool but as in was in 1831 there was no mention of parents.

I just feel that this birth is the clue to finding out where Kenneth originated from.

Thanks
Andrea

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Ross & Cromarty / What can I hope to find on a christening record?
« on: Sunday 17 June 18 19:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I think I have found the christening of an ancestor in LOCHALSH, ROSS AND CROMARTY, SCOTLAND in 1843 but what information could I hope to find on the entry? Would it give details of the fathers occupation?

The father I think originates from Scotland but he is not with his wife and children on the 1841 census in Liverpool and dies just before the 1851 census!!

His wife and 2 children appear in 1841 in Liverpool (1 child has passed away the previous year).
On 1851 census the father is dead and a fourth child is now present. On 1851 and 1861 censuses it says the child Donald was born in Ireland but in 1871 it says Scotland and 1881 (he's now blind) it says Liverpool.

The name of the child is Donald Mathieson and his burial record in May 1890 calls him Donald Kenneth Mathieson.
He is 6 in 1851 and 16 in 1861 giving an approx birth year of 1844/45. The christening record gives a birth year of 1842??

The parents of Donald are Kenneth Mathieson and Margaret Brownbill. The surname Mathieson appears as Matheson and Matthewson in various records. The father Kenneth was a hairdresser.

I don't know why they would have travelled such a distance but they clearly did for Donald to be born elsewhere. Maybe they travelled via Ireland to Scotland and Donald was born on the way?

The hints I get for the father's also take me to Scotland but I am reluctant to add them as I cannot be certain.

Any help appreciated
Andrea

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