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Cornwall / Re: Laura or Nora PASCOE
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 23:45 BST (UK)  »
Richard: Thanks for the message. My step-father was Cecil Watters. He was the son of Ernest and Nora and was born in 1906 in Ashton. I looked at the censuses 1881 and 1891. The father Thomas named Waters on his 1876 marriage certificate) and his two sons, Burt and Ernest, were listed as Watters in 1881 but it changed to Waters in 1891. In the 1901 census, Thomas and Ernest were listed as Waters. Burt left for the US in 1900 and the ship manifest had him as a Watters. Ernest joined him a little later and called himself Walters. So it was a big mess-up. Maybe there were transcription errors. The Breage parishes have several generations of Ernest's ancestors as Waters, which I think is the correct name. By 1906, when my step father was born, both Burt and Ernest called themselves Watters.
My half-brother and sister still live in the Breage.  area. They are the children of Cecil Watters. Not sure if you are in their generation or one later. You mentioned Nora as your great grandmother in one place and your grandmother in another. Who was your father and mother? Do you live in Cornwall? Again, thanks for your message, David (Pegg)

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Northamptonshire / Peggs in Northants
« on: Tuesday 07 January 14 18:12 GMT (UK)  »
I am very interested in finding out the distribution of people with the Pegg (Peggs, Pegge) surname in Northants, especially in the 17th and 18th centuries(or earlier). My paper trail ends in nearby Cambs in 1760.  I would really appreciate any assistance in finding Pegg families. Regards David Pegg

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Suffolk / Distribution of Pegg families in Suffolk between 1650-1800
« on: Tuesday 07 January 14 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
I am very interested in finding out if there were any people with the Pegg(Peggs, Pegge) surname in Suffolk in the 17th and 18th centuries (or before). If you know of any, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. I am wondering how the Peggs were distributed across the eastern midlands. My paper trail ends in 1760 in Cambs, so Suffolk towns near the Suffolk-Cambs border would be particularly interesting. Regards David Pegg

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Cornwall / Rosina JOHNS of Breage
« on: Thursday 20 December 12 14:09 GMT (UK)  »
I would appreciate any help i coud get in finding the parents of Rosina Johns(1831-1905) of Breage. She married John Meager in 1849 (Free BMD) in the Helston Registration District. On subsequent censuses her place of birth is listed as Breage. The 1841 census listed a Roseina Johns in the Breage household of William and Dorcase Johns. She was 10 yrs, which would give her a birthdate of c1831. However, i could not find her baptism listing in the Breage Parish Records, even though those of her siblings from the 1841 census were there. I also could not find a listing of the 1849 marriage in the Breage Records. I did find a listing of the birth of a Roseina Adelaide Johns in the Helston Records in 1831. Her parents were listed as Samuel and Sara Johns. He was a Helston carpenter. I could not find the household of Samuel Johns of Helston in the 1841 census.Do you think the Roseina Johns listed in the Breage 1841 census in the household of William Johns is the same person whose father is listed as Samuel Johns in the Helston birth record? Unfortunately, the Breage 1841 census doesn't say whether Roseina is a daughter. Could she have been visiting Breage at the time of the census? It is interesting to note that the spelling of Roseina is on both the birth and 1841 census records. It appears to have been changed to Rosina at the time of the 1849 marriage. I would really appreciate any suggestions on how to find out who her parents were. Regards, David

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Cornwall / Re: Emma Pascoe from Breage
« on: Tuesday 06 November 12 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Janey: Once again I apologize for my mistake in misidentifying the maiden name of Emma Pascoe. I thought it was my duty to let people know of the correction. After all, this is a forum and the information might be of interest in future searches. I was, however, quite surprised at the rather unforgiving reaction. Maybe i should have just ignored the fact. It was an honest mistake. There are many Pascoes in the Breage area and two Emmas in Breage at the about the same time. What changed my mind was the identification of Emma Pascoe (thanks to people on this forum) in the recently published 1911 census. My sister then remembered someone living in the same household in Ashton (now deceased) giving her a note with Emma's maiden name of Meager on it. Anyway, I still would appreciate anyone telling me if it is possible to access non-conformist (Methodist, in this case) parish records. The registration in Helston (covering Breage) give information on the BMD of Emma Pascoe (nee Meager) but the Breage parish record (C of E) doesn't mention the family.  There is also the same BMD info from Family Search. I have seen a marriage between Emma's parents, John Meager and Elizabeth in 1849 which fits well with the birth of their first child, John, in 1850. Emma came 3 years later. I don't know the maiden name of Elizabeth (it could be Johns?) I have two candidates for the grandparents. Richard and Elizabeth/ Sidney and Grace. Richard and Elizabeth were married in 1821. Richard and Sidney were born about the same time (c1790) and both had a son called John, born c 1825. As you suggested, I should try to get hold of the 1849 marriage certificate of John and Elizabeth. Can this be obtained in the records office in Truro or Helston? I am now living in the US but my sister still lives in Cornwall. Thanks again. David

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Cornwall / Re: Emma Pascoe from Breage
« on: Monday 05 November 12 22:25 GMT (UK)  »
First I would like to apologize to all of you. I have been assuming Emma Pascoe's maiden name was the same as her married name. Last week my sister found an oll scrap of paper indicating that Emma's maiden name was Meager. I was able to find a record of her birth in 1853 in Breage and her death in 1950 in Ashton/Breage. These were registration records from nearby Helston. I was unable, however, to find a baptism record for her birth in the Breage parish record. This is Church of England so I suspect the family might have been Methodists. Any idea how I could access non-conformist records?
I found her parents listed on Family Tree. They are John Meager and Elizabeth (?). Again, I couldn't find John's baptism record. The census records indicate he was born in Breage in c1825. The 1871 census shows Emma in the family headed by John and Elizabeth. There were quite a few Meagers (Magor, Meagor) in Breage at this time. A John appears in the 1841 census in two households. In one the father was Richard Meager and in the other Sidney Meager. Without parish records it is hard to tell which family John belonged to. Both Richard and Sidney appear to have been born in Breage around 1790. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Again, sorry for leading you up the wrong path earlier. Regards David

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Cornwall / Re: Emma Pascoe from Breage
« on: Tuesday 30 October 12 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Mabel. Unfortunately, I don't understand what you mean by accessing the "image"  of Emma Watters. I accessed the 1911 censuses on Ancestry.com. By the way, Emma Pascoe was rumoured  to be a "Bal Maiden" sometime in her life. Not surprising really, since her father was a miner. Her nickname was "Bobo". David

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Cornwall / Re: Emma Pascoe from Breage
« on: Tuesday 30 October 12 14:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Janey. I agree, Emma Pascoe is a bit of a mystery. I do know that she lived to an old age probably in Ashton, Cornwall, but don't know when. Her husband, William Pascoe, died in 1904 in Sithney (nr Helston). She might have re-married since she was quite a bit younger than William. In the 1911 census i see an Emma Watters living in the farm in Ashton with Burt Watters and wife Lillie. He age of 56 corresponds to a birth date of 1855. Another daughter, Nora Watters also lived in Ashton with her husband Ernest Watters. Ernest and Burt were brothers. Lillie and Nora were both daughters of Emma Pascoe. I don't understand why Emma is listed as a Watters in the 1911 census. I can't think of another Watters she could have married.  Maybe it was a mistake in the census? Where would be the best place to find our when Emma died? I'd appreciate any help trying to solve the life of mysterious Emma Pascoe. By the way, her maiden name was also Pascoe and she married a Pascoe. Lots of Pascoes in Cornwall! Regards David

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Cornwall / Re: Emma Pascoe from Breage
« on: Thursday 02 August 12 19:41 BST (UK)  »
sheeleyesq and Althea: Thanks for the information. Another source recently sent me the thread on the Houghton Cty, MI deaths. I am sure this Samuel and his son. Their ages were consistent with their birth dates. Samuel's parents had the correct names also. I don't know the cause of death but it could well be an accident in both father and son were involved. Mining has always been a dangerous occupation. I did see the death of an Ann Pasco in Canada and wondered if it was Ann Pascoe (nee Johns). The age relative to birth date is close. I guess the informant, William Pasco, was a grandson, the child of one of her daughters, maybe. Her son, William was not married at the time of his death.
I found Emma Pascoe on a New York passenger list in 1867. She traveled with her mother, and two siblings, Alfred and Jane. Emma was listed at 9 years old. That would put her birth date at 1858 instead of the 1856 that I had estimated from her later censuses. It appears the Emma returned to Cornwall after her father's death. She married a widower in Helston in 1873. He was 28 and she was only 15-17, depending on her birth date, 1856-1858. Her birth record is still a mystery. I found an Emma Jane Pascoe born in the Helston registration district in 1858 (I think Breage would have been in this district). I have no other indication her middle name was Jane but she did have a sister called Jane. This might be her. I have no record of her death. I know from local people that she lived quite a long time. Her husband died in 1904. She would have been only about 45 then. She might have remarried. i couldn't find an Emma Pascoe in the 1911 census. Once again, any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards David

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