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Cork / Re: Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy
« on: Saturday 19 November 16 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the advice Rathmore, I will look into the possible Fermoy connection.

Yes, the name changes for Herlehey/Herlihy/O'Herlihy can be quite confusing!

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Cork / Re: Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy
« on: Friday 18 November 16 14:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Rathmore, I've had a look at that, it gives some great information about Jesse Antrobus - it's definitely the man I'm looking for. Thanks a mil!

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Cork / Re: Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy
« on: Friday 18 November 16 09:40 GMT (UK)  »
Dathai,

Thanks so much for those, they've really helped me. I decided to take the plunge and subscribe to one of the online companies to follow up these, and in particular the census information and the Army record confirmed what I was looking for. The Army record even had Jesse Snr.'s death cert from 1939 and showed that most of the family ended up in Billingham, England.

I can only speculate that when young John died in 1922 in Cork and his mother was present, that they may have come to Ireland in the hope that it might have helped his TB. But who knows for sure?

I will continue to follow up and hopefully tie down some information!

Thanks so much again for your help

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Cork / Re: Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy
« on: Thursday 17 November 16 22:55 GMT (UK)  »
"... they appear again in 1922 when young John Antrobus dies from TB and his mother "Kate Antrobus" is listed as present at death....."

Where?

In Cork City, in the state death records

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Cork / Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy
« on: Thursday 17 November 16 22:33 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the family and descendants of Jesse Antrobus and Catherine Herlihy / Catherine O'Herlihy who lived in Cork City.

They married in St Patrick's Church, Cork, on 13th July 1897. Jesse (born about 1871 to John Antrobus, labourer) was a British army private based in Fermoy Barracks. I am guessing that Jesse Antrobus was born in England, possibly Cheshire based on the unusual surname.

Catherine Herlihy was born 15th December 1867 in Cappagh, Ballvourney; her father John Herlihy was a baker who died in the weeks before she was born. Her mother was Margaret Murphy.

They had at least two sons, John born 1898 and Jesse born 1900. A daughter Mary Antrobus  was born in 1904.

The family appear in the 1901 census living in Cork City. Jesse Senior is not present - although when his son John was born in 1898 he was a "van man", when Jesse Junior was born in 1900 he was listed as a Private in the 1st South Lancashire Regiment, so presumably he was off in the Boer War at the time of the census.

I can not find them in the 1911 census in Ireland or UK, but they appear again in 1922 when young John Antrobus dies from TB and his mother "Kate Antrobus" is listed as present at death.

I can't find any reference to the family living in Cork other than the above.

If any descendants or family come across this topic, please do drop a line.

Any help from researchers who come across the name would be also greatly appreciated!

Sincere thanks in advance.

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Motto "A tout pourvoir"
« on: Friday 04 December 15 16:07 GMT (UK)  »
I believe the charges shown in replies ##8 and 12 above are roses and not cinquefoils.

Yes, the charges in the coat I put up were roses rather than cinquefoils.

It is hard to see from the original photo of the arms in question here, but it appears as if the centre is yellow (or certainly a different colour to the leaves), which would suggest roses rather than cinquefoils.  The latter generally are either one colour or have a "doughnut"-like hole in the centre exposing the field on which the charge is placed.

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Motto "A tout pourvoir"
« on: Friday 04 December 15 13:28 GMT (UK)  »
There might be an outside chance that the other arms are from a family by the name of Cary. Below is the arms of the well-known Cary family of Devon. Sometimes families with the same name as another (but with no proof of a common origin) adopted similar arms with a slight variation. Couldn't say it 100%, but there's a slight chance.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Possible nightmare for the future re DNA tracing
« on: Thursday 05 November 15 11:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Guy...... I am surprised that differences in DNA samples can be obtained from different parts of a body. :o :o
Have the samples been found to vary much? and does it put the whole field of DNA usage into doubt?
Joe .... who is now reflecting on his outlay on DNA. :'( :'(

I wouldn't be too worried. YDNA and mtDNA testing would be unaffected by this quirk, and autosomal DNA testing - while giving a slightly different result - would still reflect DNA inherited from the same set of parents.

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The Common Room / Re: Destruction of Records
« on: Tuesday 03 November 15 12:09 GMT (UK)  »
Well the NA's previous experience with digitising archives would suggest that they shouldn't destroy original material anytime soon! : http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/mar/03/research.elearning

Surely there's a corner of an abandoned mine somewhere in Britain that could be used for long term, low maintenance storage of archival material that it is believed won't be used anytime soon.

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