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Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certs A to G / EDWARD GEORGE - Birth Cert. - 18 Aug 1838 - Wrexham Reg. Dist. - Flint/Denbigh
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 19:00 BST (UK)  »
I ordered this certificate, but it turned out to be unrelated to my family.  It is available to whomever would like a copy.  Details as follows:

Edward George, son of Peter George (collier) and Mary Williams George.

Registration District: Wrexham
Sub-district: Hope
County: Flintshire/Denbighshire

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Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certs A to G / RICHARD GEORGE - Death Cert. - 2 Mar 1848 - Holywell Reg. Dist., Flintshire
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 18:54 BST (UK)  »
I ordered this certificate, but it turned out to be unrelated to my family.  It is available to whomever would like a copy.  Details as follows:

Richard George, 2 months old, son of Robert George (laborer)

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Breconshire / Re: Watkins of Llanelly, Breconshire
« on: Saturday 29 October 11 20:10 BST (UK)  »
Katy,

I believe my Thomas Watkins was born about 1803-1806 (believed to be the son of Walter & Ann Watkins), probably in Talgarth or Ystradgynlais.  In the 1841 census, Thomas and Christiana Watkins are living in Llangattock, Breconshire.  In 1851 and 1861, they are living in Llanelly, Breconshire.  They emigrated to America in 1864 (Pennsylvania and then onto Utah).  Some of their children also emigrated at separate times.  I don't know that we are related to the same family, but sometimes it can be hard to tell.  I do know there was another family of Watkins - the Thomas and Mary Watkins family - who were also in Llanelly in 1841.  However, I believe Christiana was from Llanbedr and it seems that several of their children were born there prior to them coming to Llanelly.  There is still a lot I don't know about them, but they had 7 children - Mary, Margaret, William, Christiana, Thomas, Anthony, and Ann.  I don't know if any of that information is similar to your family, but it's always worth a try.

Megan

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Breconshire / Re: Watkins of Llanelly, Breconshire
« on: Thursday 27 October 11 04:31 BST (UK)  »
Kate,

I realize this reply comes quite late, but I just joined Roots Chat recently.  I am also researching a family of Watkins in Llanelly, Breconshire.  My 4x great grandfather was Thomas Watkins and his wife's name was Christiana.  Their son William was my 3x great grandfather, and he was born about 1834.  Some of the family emigrated to the USA.  They lived in Llanelly for a while at least, but also may have lived in Monmouthshire it seems.  Would they be any relation to your Watkins family?

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Denbighshire / Re: THOMAS MATTHIAS of BRYMBO.
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 02:50 BST (UK)  »
I should note that when I tried to attach my document to the post, it gave me an error message.  Perhaps it was too large?

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Denbighshire / Re: THOMAS MATTHIAS of BRYMBO.
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 02:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rowlandson and Jeze,

You both know more about the Matthias family/families than I do, as I am not actually related.  I just thought that by looking them up, I might find my ancestors nearby.  I will have to check the censuses you mentioned.

One place that's easy to find their record of arrival is the Castle Garden website, castlegarden.org.  In the upper left corner, click Search.  Then enter Ship Name as William Stetson and select Matthias as Surname and it will bring them right up. 

You could probably find the passenger list on A******* but you can also look it up for free on the LDS site, familysearch.org.  To find it, click on "Catalog" under where it says "Discover Your Family History."  Then in the Search drop-down menu, select Film numbers.  Next to that, type in 175508.  Click on "Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, 1820-1897.  In red letters it will say "New York Passenger Lists are available online, click here."  Once that comes up, under "View Images in this collection" click on "Browse through 428,944 images."  Select NARA Roll Number 152 - 8 May 1855 - 31 May 1855.  From there, you will type in "615" as the page number.  You can just type it right in the box and hit enter, and it should bring up the list for the William Stetson, showing the Matthias family.  As I mentioned earlier, my ancestor, Charlotte George, is incorrectly listed on here as Charlotte Matthias. However, on LDS emigration records, she is correctly listed as Charlotte George.

I tried to attach the document I have, which is a scan of a microfilm I ordered from the LDS Family History Library (Film #025690 - LDS Emigration Records for Europe). These microfilms can be ordered inexpensively through your local LDS family history centers.

The LDS record is very similar to the passenger list, with a few exceptions.  Both records give the names, ages, and occupations. Both records seem to indicate they traveled in steerage.  The LDS emigration record also says they put down a deposit of 7 pounds, with a remaining balance of 19 pounds, 2 shillings, and 6 pence.

The next question is...where did they go from there?  My ancestor, Charlotte George apparently did not start for Utah to join the other LDS until December 1855.  Perhaps she was working along the way to save money for the next leg of her journey.  She left with a company of LDS converts, mostly Welsh, in the summer of 1856 from Iowa and arrived in Utah in Oct. 1856.  I looked to see if perhaps the Matthias family were in that company, but they were not. 

Hopefully some of this will prove useful to you.

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Denbighshire / Re: THOMAS MATTHIAS of BRYMBO.
« on: Monday 19 September 11 00:16 BST (UK)  »
I know this is quite late in coming, but I just joined Roots Chat.  I am researching an ancestor named Charlotte George, whose birthplace was Tryddyn, Flintshire, Wales.  She emigrated to the U.S. aboard the William Stetson in 1855, leaving from Liverpool and landing at Castle Garden, NY.  She is listed next to a family named Matthias, and in fact, on the Castle Garden website, is incorrectly listed by the name Charlotte Matthias, so I get the impression they may have been traveling as a group.  For whatever reason, on the ship's passenger list, her name is sandwiched between the members of the Matthias family.  I am wondering if they were friends or neighbors and thus traveling together.  The Matthias family members include: Thomas, age 54, collier; Ann, 48, wife; Joseph, 24, collier; Hannah, 16, spinster; Thomas, 13, collier; and Edward, age 9.  Their address is difficult to read but looks like "Lewis Davies...Jonathan Ellis...Brymbo...Wrecsam Denbigshire."  My ancestor, Charlotte, was a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS/Mormon), as were most others on board the William Stetson.  Not sure if this is the family you're looking for, but it seems to line up pretty closely with what information you gave in your post.  In that case, you'd be unlikely to find them in the 1861 Wales census or later since it appears they left for America.

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