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Travelling People / Can ANYone Help me Please. Martin Romany/Traveller Family
« on: Friday 06 June 14 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I am hoping anyone can help me in my quest to uncover the validity of an old family tale. My grandmother Violet Stanton said once that we were of gypsies, Romanys, her maiden name is Martin, Before I go into specific details I just want to make sure of something. Does anyone know of, is related to or descended from any Martins who they know to be Romany, I keep seeing the same old names Ayres, Gorman, Price, Lowther, Smith, Boswell, etc but the only single time ive seen on rtfhs where its listed as being a name in the index of a book I think. Lots of things fit, such as being listed as Hawkers, and Pedlar on the 1901 and 1911 census, and going further back as Agricultural labourers, but I am also aware that these occupations were also done by gorjas as well. Please any help would be great, really struggling to validate the romany link but would like to very much. Thanks in advance for any help!

PS. I am friends with some Romanys who are going to Appleby tomorrow called Gill, that is also a name I haven't seen or heard much of, so I remain hopeful.

pps. I realise that by looking into marriages and finding maiden names I may be able to solidify the link by looking for common traveller names, but I have been unable to find any other than a Bardon.

Regards

Mick

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Friday 04 November 11 00:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

William Martin was indeed aboard Swiftsure at the BOT, here is the link

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/details.asp?id=15148

Regards

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sheila,

Thanks for that info, do you know from where Ann Ward's family hailed? is it possible they were Irish? Thanks for helping! :)

Mike

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 22:50 GMT (UK)  »
ah cool, so he taught the future PM how to play? He must have done something right as it says on Antony's profile on wiki that he excelled at cricket while at Eton! By the way do you have any info regarding Willliam Ward Martins son John, and if possible any info on Johns sons/daughters? Again thanks for you help it is brilliant to learn all this!

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
and if he was lower class, where did he receive his education to  enable him to go on to tutor the future PM? Incredible stuff. Thanks Again.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 19:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks you so much for all that information, it is truly facinating, i actually study at Durham University at the moment, and have played against Durham at youth level for Lancashire. Great coincidence, Absolutely fantastic that he was a Marine, on the deck in the thick of it one imagines (do you know if he received the medal that was minted in honour of the battle). Just to clarify, are you saying that Jim and the family were the elements of the lower classes brought in to bowl? haha. Thanks again for your help!

Regards

Mike

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Nottinghamshire / Re: william ward martin (east retford)
« on: Wednesday 02 November 11 03:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, just wondering if anyone could clarify who Jim Martin (b.1861) played cricket for, William Ward Martin was my ggg grandfather, also where does the name Ward come from? And finally with regards to the obituary of William Ward Martins grandfather also named William, could you disclose what it says about his service at Trafalgar? Any help on any of these issues would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, Mike

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