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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
I sent you an reply to your mail but it looks like it went elsewhere. if you did not get the mail this is the only way. To my knowledge Thomas W. married to Jemima in 1794 is the son of John and Alice W. bap 28 Nov 1748. If you can come up with a Tho W bap 1773 in this area I would be most interested.
It was suggested that on Ancestry there is a family tree for this branch of Woodroffes with Edward and Abigail of 1732 marriage on it .The bap of Edward given as 1666 ish. I don't have Ancestry so am unable to check it BUT the library versions  I have seen have a lot of suggested dates !!
best wishes for the hunt .      Sploshkin

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Friday 24 November 17 20:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Glenmount.  Re. Edmund Woodroffe. He was baptised in Bury St Edmunds in 1807 but born in 1803.His name is Edward but  the 1851 census has him down as Edmund.  Other censuses have his name as Edward. He did have a son called Charles for whom I can find no church baptism or birth in civil registration.  Civil Reg.started in 1835, Charles born C 1832/3.
The father of Edward W. was Thomas W born 1749 in Bury St Edmunds. He was a baker. His mother was Jemima Wade. In an earlier posting of mine I said that an Edward Woodroffe had moved to Leeds in the early 1830s, in fact it was Thomas the son of Thomas and Jemima, Edward's brother. Sorry!
I hope this may be of use to you. Sploshkin.

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Sunday 28 February 16 20:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hookleg, Thanks for the comment about the maps. I did look at the 1888? map but as for the Google map combination, I'm not very sharp when it comes to computers. So, I went and looked at the site.
Can't really imagine a windmill standing there in relative isolation.

Windy, the marriage I gave to you re. John Girt and Mary Asbee 1756 was one I found  while looking  for Girt in Boyd's marriages for Suffolk). I don't think I went into any great depth with him. Looked at his will presumably. I have been searching 20 years for a Mary Girt who had an illegitimate son  in 1817. Still no joy.
                                 Regards.
 

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Monday 22 February 16 21:18 GMT (UK)  »
Windy, - Jeremiah Plumb rings no bells with me. However, if you do not have him, John Girt  (Miller)  died 1782 In St Mary's parish. He married in Cockfield 1756 to Mary Asbee. Their children were all baptised in Bury between 1758  and 1775. I have a note "Mill on L/H side of Bury to Nowton Road". I'm not sure where Robin Rd is in relation to that. He is the only windmiller I can find other than the 2 I mentioned earlier. I do have a water miller iwho died in 1575 at Fornham St Genevieve, named Richard Rastell. Possibly followed by his son in law John Cocker depending on whether Richard R's wife could be called a miller. I think the lease passed to her.

Bert M. Sorry I couldn't help clear up why the will was where it was. always more questions than answers?

Hookleg. I do not have Ancestry,but I never could find any connection between Edward Woodroffe and any  of the 2 Woodroffe families which preceded him in Bury. There were 2 Johns who were  heads of households - I would have been happy with either if there had been a son  Edward. Perhaps I missed something or lost him during the Interregnum.
                                           Regards to all.
 

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 20:57 GMT (UK)  »
Bert M. and Windy -  Having had my book and wills out I realised that John Woodroffe's will was probated in April 1770 not 1775. He was buried in March 1770 aged 58 years.
The original will of John's father Edward, who was buried in March 1732 has the ref number IC500/I/186 (81). The names of the people mentioned in the deeds /contracts of the mills around Bury in the 1600s are not related to the Woodroffes as far as I can tell. Their surnames do not crop up in relation to that family .
I think  that John W's will was made out in 1759 was because John's son Edward, born 1738  was kicking over his traces after reaching or approaching 21 years of age. His mother Isabella died in 1738, after a year John married Alice Holden. They had at least 9 children.   Whatever son Edwards "undutifullness" was ,his father seems to have disinherited him. John and Alice's son John inherited the mills. I must say I felt quite sorry for Edward.

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Wednesday 03 February 16 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou Mr. Marshall for your info on John Woodroffe, Miller, who died 1775 at Bury St Edmunds.
He was the son of the Edward W  I have been trying to find the baptism of C1680. Nice try though, I do appreciate you trying to help. Are you interested in Woodroffes yourself?
                                  Best wishes.

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Monday 30 June 14 13:37 BST (UK)  »
Hello Windy,
The document references at Bury R O are of Guildhall Feoffment.

H1/5/9,10   1618  Westfield Mill - newly built mill. John Godfrey of Horringer yeoman to Wm Thurston of West Stow, miller. Robert Fent miller.

H1/3/31     1637   Concerning 5 little pieces of land. Exchange between feoffees and Wm Thurston of BSE miller.
 Windmill lately built by Wm Thuston---at his own personal cost and charge in the Southfield of Bury.
 One little piece of land whereof a windmill did lately stand --- lying in the west field.


Edwards wife Abigail Hammond was born at Westley 1684 and was buried St Mary's March 1747. I'm not sure who your 1818 burial refers to. Poss Mary wife of James  1815? I don't have a burial date for James. poss something fishy?
  Some body got shot but I can't remember who.
Until middle of 1900s this particular family do not have appeared to have gone anywhere! Just died out. so, I'm really only interested in finding where Edward came from. Just remembered - one Edward went to Leeds middle 1800s!
 If you need any further info just say. Regards, Sploshkin.
 

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Suffolk / Re: Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Wednesday 18 June 14 00:31 BST (UK)  »
Hello windy-miller,
                          "Will of Edward Woodruff  of BSE in the county of Suffolk Miller  --- First I give to Abigail my beloved wife all that my tenement wherein I now do dwell and the windmill called Horringer Mill with all and singular  the appurtenances during the term of her life, she keeping the same in repair"
Interestingly, if you look at the large 1791 map on the landing of the BSE Record Office , you will see Horringer Mill on the north side of Horringer Road but with no house. Whereas, on the south side of the road but about 80 yards nearer Bury is another plot of land with "mill house" ascribed to it. This piece of land is shown on the plan of "lands of the Hon.Thomas Watson 1737/8 "  which refers to 6 acres of land on the north side of the Horringer road. On the south is the mill house ascribed to Widowe Woodroffe. I think her house was a marker as there is no other reference to her. The map of 1791 also shows the South Mill with "Woodroffe" attached, also another mill further south about 1/4 mile also "Woodroffe". These were presumably run by Edwards G/son. Also, still in respect to these  mills, I have a  reference to a mill built by Wm. Thurston miller, in the Southfield of  Bury in 1637. The same document also mentions 1/2 acre of land "whereof a
windmill did lately stand --- lying in the west field of Bury".
Another document of 1618 describes "one windmill lately erected --- in the west fields of Bury".
If you would like any document ref numbers or clarification  I can let you have them.
                         Regards,  Sploshkin.

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Suffolk / Edward Woodruff / Woodroffe. Windmiller of Horringer Mill, Bury St Edmunds,SFK
« on: Tuesday 08 April 14 23:44 BST (UK)  »
For several years I have searched for the baptism of Edward Woodroffe  c1675.
He was the father of John and Sarah Woodroffe bap at Ousden, Suffolk in 1711 and 1712.
 Edward W married Abigail Hammond in 1709 at St Mary's church in BSE. At the time of marriage he resided in Ousden, she in Gazeley. After the baps I can find nothing of the family until Edward died in 1732.In his will he left the mill to Abigail until she died or remarried, whichever was sooner, when it then passed  to his son John. Edw also left his interests in Southgate Mill to John his son.
Sarah the daughter was left 10 pounds or goods equivalent.
The family ran the Horringer Mill or West Mill as it was otherwise known until the mid 1800s.
Having located Woodroffes at Isleham around 1700 I thought Edw would fit in there but no such luck. Not unless Edward is interchangeable with Edmund? Any assistance appreciated.

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