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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Sunday 21 November 21 18:34 GMT (UK)  »
As far as I can see John Reid and Margaret Hammill were actually married in Glasgow on the 1st January 1877. Have a look at the RC marriage for them  in St Mungo's Chapel on FindMyPast. The corresponding marriage cert is indexed in St Rollox RD in Glasgow in 1877 on Scotland's People.

I would be wary of the Ancestry Trees for this family. Frankly they seem to contain lots of errors. I would suggest that after emigration your Reids lived in Philadelphia in the state of Pennsylvania, not in New Jersey. I think Cecilia and Timothy were the children of a totally different John and Margaret.

Here are a couple of records from Familysearch  :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M37L-55D

This is the family in Philadelphia in 1900. The surname is showing as Reed ( I have lots of Reids in my own tree and have this error too). Felix's RC marriage record which clearly names his parents as John Reid and Margaret Ann Hammill can be viewed on FindMyPast.

This is son Edward's death cert. in 1909. Again parents are named along with place of birth.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65B9-9PQ?i=501&cc=1320976&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJ6Q8-ZL6.

Note that the residence showing on the death cert. is Richmond Street, the same as on the 1900 census.

Millmoor
Thank you for all this information. You are correct on all points.
 
I actually have their marriage in Scotland in 1877 I had mixed up Margaret's mom and dad with John and Margaret.  I also later had noticed the two very similar families on two different census.  so I have been working on correcting that information.  I don't work very fast  :) :) :) .

You are absolutely right about the tress on Ancestry they are a mess.  A lot of people just add stuff to their trees to bulk them out. I like to source my information that's why it takes me so long.  I do make mistakes and sometimes it takes me a while to see them. 

I do appreciate your help pointing out something I may have missed.  I need to do better when answering posts and not mix up my information  :)

Caroline

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Saturday 20 November 21 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
I can see John and Margaret Reid in the 1881 Scotland census but not thereafter in Scotland.. I note that John Reid's place of birth is given as Ireland. I have to say that I think the Kirkintilloch John Reid is a different person. I would suggest that it would be worth downloading the actual marriage cert from Scotland's People to ensure you have the correct John. ( Some of the Ancestry trees for this couple seem rather muddled).



Hope this helps.

William

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
Caroline, what happened to Bridget Canning Hamill?

Monica

I had a whole email typed and lost it so I have to start over.
So I now have Felix and Bridget and all the children.  I think that Bridget is Canning and maybe on the record with Conner it was transcribed as the Diocese (Conner) instead of Canning. I am now working on the record of Margaret Anne that you found.  She married a John Reid.  She moved to the States so lots of records for them in the US.

The last names are enough to make you crazy and this is my first foray into Scotland and Northern Ireland.  I am from Dublin and the bulk of my family are from Dublin.  My mom who just passed away in 2019 (91 years young) was born in number 1 High Street Dublin can't get much more Dublin than that.  The Hamill  tree I am doing now is for my friend. 
I just found on my husband's tree that his 8th or 9th grandfather was one of the 104 on the Mayflower.  Very exciting.  However, he is still waiting for me to find a pirate and some buried treasure.  :) :) :)
Caroline

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
Possibly mother's maiden name Gray?

William

Awesome will check that out.  I have looked at the other records as the address on the records are the same as the census records  the error has to be like you say in the transcription.  I also found Fanny Hamill  :)  I now have all the children.  I haven't been doing ancestry for a couple of years and really just recently started up again.  I am glad I remembered rootschat.  I think I am good until I get on here and you guys are always amazing.   find my past has changed quite a bit so I am learning my way around it again.   :) 
Caroline

Gray is correct.  :) :) :)

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
Possibly mother's maiden name Gray?

William

Awesome will check that out.  I have looked at the other records as the address on the records are the same as the census records  the error has to be like you say in the transcription.  I also found Fanny Hamill  :)  I now have all the children.  I haven't been doing ancestry for a couple of years and really just recently started up again.  I am glad I remembered rootschat.  I think I am good until I get on here and you guys are always amazing.   find my past has changed quite a bit so I am learning my way around it again.   :) 
Caroline

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 18:43 GMT (UK)  »
I may have attached this twice  ::)

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 18:40 GMT (UK)  »
I suspect that the name confusion on the Catholic record I quoted is simply an error.

You might also find it of interest to look at the baptism records which are available on FindMyPast. The surname is variously written as Hamel, Hamil, Hammell or Hammill. On the record for Felix Bridget's maiden surname is given as Cannon! Baptisms for Francis in 1867 and 1869 indicate a death in infancy. ( In fact there appear to be burial records for both). Sponsors' names might be of use in your search. Presumably the sponsors Francis and Margaret Canning are relatives.
Thank you I am taking a look at these records.


William

Added. As well as Felix and Francis there are baptisms for Mary in 1863 and Eliza in 1865. There also seems to be a baptism for an earlier Mary in 1856, the surname being transcribed as Hammet. Edward's surname is transcribed as Hannah on his baptism record - the handwriting on that one is not good.

I did find another record for John Reid.  I cannot read the mothers maiden name.


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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Friday 19 November 21 01:51 GMT (UK)  »
I cannot see the corresponding marriage in the Catholic records on SP. However there is a clearly written copy on FindMyPast from the Scottish Catholic Archives which is worth looking at. The name is clearly written as Canning although they seem to have the parents' surname and mother's maiden name the wrong way round!

William

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Scotland / Re: Can anyone read this record
« on: Thursday 18 November 21 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
I cannot see the corresponding marriage in the Catholic records on SP. However there is a clearly written copy on FindMyPast from the Scottish Catholic Archives which is worth looking at. The name is clearly written as Canning although they seem to have the parents' surname and mother's maiden name the wrong way round!

William

 :) Yes this is a very confusing Record. 

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