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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Friday 10 August 18 13:11 BST (UK)  »
 jonw65, Thank you for that information, 3 Glenister Road was where my Dad was classed as a border in the 1901 census, another brick in the wall. 

I will try and research why children were placed in workhouses without their parents, I have searched marriage records to see if I can get any information on my grandfather.  I did look at the 1891 census for the address in Conley Street and there was another Thompson as the householder, but no Joseph Thompson.  I can't find any death record of him, I even searched prison records on the census, but I suppose he would not have been incarcerated in one close by, could have been anywhere.

Thanks again, I feel even more sorry for my Dad.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 11:54 BST (UK)  »
I have found several Family Trees with a Florence Ada Atkins, but no mention of a spouse.  On my father's birth certificate it states his father was a labourer. 

I also listened to a radio programme on the history of The Cottage Homes, where they said that they originated from people taking in children and being classed as borders, then as they raised funds and more children needed caring for, they became The Cottage Homes.  My Dad always said there were houses with a specified number of children, House Mother and House Father.  Until the age of 5 they were in mixed houses, but then were put into segregated houses which were separated from each other by fencing.  According to the radio programme they were a long way and far superior from the Victorian orphanages.


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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 19:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi,  Thanks for that, I don't know how far Greenwich is from Islington, but the dates are very close to what I have calculated from the 1901 census.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 14:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Thanks, I did find on the 1901 census an entry for a Florence A Thompson who was a widow working as a General Servant Domestic.  It says she was born in Islington London, and was working at 50 Primrose Mansion Residential Flats in Battersea.

Whether or not this is my paternal grandmother remains to be seen.  I have been unable to track her in the 1911 census, I have looked for Florence Thompson, Florence Ada, and Florence A, with no success.

In the 1901 census, there is another family living in Chelsea, who have the same names, i.e. Joseph, Florence Ada and Joseph Charles Thompson, plus other children, but the age of the Joseph Charles does not correspond with my JC Thompson.

I have tried going back to 1891/81 to try and find F A Thompson/Atkins, as I think she might be easier to track than J Thompson, I have looked for marriage records, again, no trace, and for death records of Joseph Thompson, supposing that the 1901 census record is hers, so I looked between 1897 (my dad's birth year) and 1901.  So any help would be very gratefully appreciated.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 13:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks I have his birth certificate, his father was Joseph Thompson and mother Florence Ada Thompson (nee) Atkins.

My dad tried for many years to track his family down, he went back to where he was born, spent many hours at Somerset House going through the records, but in those days the census only went up to 1881, they had to be kept locked for 100 years, so he couldn't find where they were in 1901.  He thinks he was boarded out, or put in the orphanage when he was 18 months of age, he vaguely remembered his mother standing in a doorway whilst he was being weighed. 

If his father died it is possible she remarried as she was a relatively young woman. 

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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I know, but later on my Dad said that when he was 5 he was in a large orphanage where the girls and boys were segregated, the two buildings were on the same site by separated by a fence.  On the radio programme I listened to they said that the start of the cottage home orphanages were started by people who took in boarders and gradually they raised enough money to build purpose built buildings, the first being in Epsom.  My contact on Greenwich history said he thought that is where my Dad would have been sent, but I cannot find any information on their records.


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London and Middlesex / Re: Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 09:17 BST (UK)  »
His name was Joseph Thompson
age 3
Piece 542, Folio 93, Page 17, Schedule Number 105.

He always said he was at the orphanage until he was 14, he joined the army, the Rifle Brigade and served through WW1 and left the army in the 1920's.  He then went on to become a musician with one of the 1930's big bands. 

I have found a reference to a woman who might be his mother on the 1901 census, Florence Ada Thompson, who was a General Domestic Servant, and referred to as a widow, but I haven't found any reference to his father Joseph Thompson death or otherwise, but Joseph Thompson is such a common name.  My father's full name was Joseph Charles Thompson.

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London and Middlesex / Orphanages, Greenwich
« on: Wednesday 18 April 12 09:06 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know of an orphanage where London children were placed.  My Dad was placed in an orphanage as a toddler, I found he was a boarder in the 1901 census, he never saw his parents again.  I learned from a programme on the radio a few years back that the Cottage Homes were started by people taking children into their homes and then it was expanded into the Cottage Homes.  My Dad always thought his orphanage was in Greenwich where he was born but I cannot trace any information on any.  Does anyone have information where he might have been.  One person who knew a lot of history about Greenwich thought he might have been put in an orphanage in Epsom for Children of the Workhouse.

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