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Dorset / Re: Info on Snook And Coombes Family
« on: Sunday 04 January 15 23:22 GMT (UK)  »
I've just come across your posting so hope this still helps. I've been researching this family line for many years.

Philip Coombs born 25/10/1807, Iwerne Minster, Dorset, England.
Died 10/3/1870, Filly Flat, Forbes River, New South Wales, Australia
Buried on Private Ground, Yarras, New South Wales, Australia.
Married Susan/Susannah/Susanna Snook, daughter of Harry Snook and Ann Gillard on 29 December, 1836, Saint Peter's Shaftesbury, Dorset, England.  The only surviving record is for their Marriage Banns.
Susannah Snook born on 6 November, 1814, Gillingham, Dorset, England.
Died 29 October, 1907, Forbes River, New South Wales, Australia.
Buried on Private Ground, Yarras, New South Wales, Australia.
In records her Christian name can be recorded as Susan/Susannah/Susanna.

The 1841 Census of England has Philip of Little Down, Holy Trinity, Shaftesbury, Dorset, England, Agricultural Labourer, with wife Susan, sons Henry & James.

As Assisted Immigrants Philip, Brickmaker, aged 41 and Susannah aged 36 migrated to New South Wales, Australia travelling on the vessel “Victoria” which arrived on 2/9/1849, Newcastle, NSW.  Accompanying them were their children Henry Albert aged 11, James aged 9, Eliza aged 7, John aged 5 and Edward aged 2, the remaining children being born in N.S.W.  Philip, Susannah, Henry Albert, James and Eliza were alll listed as being able to read and write.  The 2 youngest children could do neither.  Philip’s Native Place and County were Iwerne, Dorset, Susannah, Henry Albert and James were Gillingham, Dorset and Eliza, John and Edward were Shaftesbury, Dorset.  The family’s religion was listed as Church of England. 

Philip was the son of William Coombs through his 2nd wife Hannah (Ann) Andrews.  William and Hannah married on 3 February, 1807, Iwerne Courtney, Dorset, England.  They also had Charles born 1810, Shaftesbury, Dorset and Jane born 1811, Shaftesbury, Dorset.

William's first wife was Ann Dominey/Domoney and they married on 22 May, 1797, Iwerne Minster, Dorset.

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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Thursday 16 August 12 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I finally have the death certifications on my McAvoys:

1.  Certified Copy of an Entry of Death from The Births and Deaths Registration (Northern Ireland) Order 1976, Article 34, No D/1905/176/1021/24/232, Book 24, No. 232.

Joseph McAvoy's Entry of Death lists that he died on 25 March 1905, Breagh, County Armagh, Northern Ireland.  He was a Widower, 66 years, Farmer, dying of Bronchitis, 7 days Certified, Informant George McAvoy, son, Present at death, Breagh, registered on 27 March 1905 by Jash Rowlett, Registrar.

2.  Certified Copy of an Entry of Death from The Births and Deaths Registration (Northern Ireland) Order 1976, Article 34, No D/1880/176/1021/10/337, Book 10, No. 337.

Jane (Hopps) McAvoy's Entry of Death lists she died on the 23rd November 1880 at Knocknamuckly, County Armagh, Northern Ireland.  She was aged 41 years, Weaver's wife and died from Enteritis which she'd had for 5 days.  The informant listed is her husband Joseph McAvoy, Occupier, Knockmanuckly.  The Death was registered on the 11th December 1880 by W. Stewart, Registrar.

3.  Certified Copy of Death Certificate from The Births and Deaths Registration (Northern Ireland) Order 1976, Article 34 No D/1882/176/1021/11/243, Book 11, No. 243.

Lewis McAvoy's Entry of Death lists that he died on 22 April 1882, Knocknamuckly, County Armagh, Northern Ireland.  He was a Widower, 70 years, Weaver, cause of death Enteritis 1 week, Uncertified, no Medical allowed, Informant xthe mark of William McAvoy, Occupier Knocknamuckly, registered on 24 April 1882 by W. Stewart, Registrar.

Unfortunately. the parents, spouses and children are not listed which means I can't verify that this Lewis Mcavoy is Joseph McAvoy's father although it fits place and age periods.  It appears both Joseph and Jane were born in 1839 according to their ages recorded on the Entry of Death.  However, on the Marriage Register Joseph was recorded as being 26 years which would make his birth year 1835.  Of course full knowlege may not have been known at those times and Informants/Clerks estimated it.

Ha anyone any other suggestions on searching other documentation available.  I can't find records for birth, marriage, death between 1812-1862 so stuck again.

All the best.

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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Thursday 24 May 12 14:28 BST (UK)  »
I am afraid I haven't had any of this information so trying to sort it out.  My Joseph McAvoy, son of Lewis was born in approximately 1835.  He did not migrate and died about 1905.  The closest that might match from LDS Family Search, Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958 is Joseph M'Avoy, Registered Lurgan, Reg. Quarter & Year Jan-Mar 1905, Estimated Birty 1839, Age 66, Film 101602, Volume 1, Page No. 590, Dig. Folder No. 4201706, Image No. 00515.

Jane Hopps/McAvoy is Jane M'Avoy, Reg. Lurgan, Oct-Dec 1880, Estd. Birth Year 1839, Aged 41, Film No. 101590, Vol. 1, Page 494, Dig. Folder No. 4200672, Image No. 00287.

I need to order these films from LDS centre which at present I haven't been able to get to one to do so, hopefully soon.

I really appreciate your efforts.

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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Tuesday 22 May 12 13:46 BST (UK)  »
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958:

Elizabeth Chambers married James McEvoy in 1871, Registration District Banbridge, Volume 11, Page 269, FHL Film No. 101251. 

Children (Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911):

1. William John McAvoy, born 2/4/1877, Knocknamuckley, Armagh, Ireland, Father James McAvoy, Mother Elizabeth McAvoy Chambers, FHL Film No. 255978.

2. James Henry McAvoy, Born 25/5/1879, Knocknamuckley, Armagh, Ireland, Father James McAvoy, Mother Elizabeth Chambers, FHL Film No. 256032.


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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Tuesday 22 May 12 03:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kat, Interestingly a son of Joseph and Janes, Thomas Henry McAvoy and his wife Minnie Brown (dau. of John Brown and Mary Graham) migrated to USA in 1903 going to Minnie's sister Edith who married Edward Swain settling at 208 South Street, Holyoke, Hampden County, Massachusetts.  Tom and Minnie lived at 210 South Street.  Wonder if Tom also had McAvoy rellies there too.  A couple of years ago I was in touch with someon searching James McAvoy and Elizabeth Chambers, didn't know more marriages with James.  I've just emailed her and hopefully her address is same and can pursue this further.  Meanwhile I'll go over all the messages and try to digress it all.  Many, Many thanks.

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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Monday 21 May 12 13:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kat, Sorry I don't have anything regarding James McEvoy.  There was a son James born 11 June 1878 to Joseph McAvoy and Jane Hopps but he died as a baby or young child, so too another child Eliza Ann born 27 December 1867.  Ten other children survived to adulthood and nine married.

As to location of William Hopps I took it from the marriage of Jane in that they had her from Ballydugan (spelt that way on the extract).  I've found references to a William Hopps at Lisnamintry (Griffiths Valuation 1864), 1918 Lurgan Directory Legahorry (doubt mine).  I'm not able to tell if he is mine.  My late great-grandfather William John McAvoy (born 9/6/1862, Knocknamuckly) went back for a visit to his siblings in 1926 and a photo I have shows a William (Bill) Hopps, Mary Hopps and niece Stella Leckie taken on a road in front of a cottage near Lurgan.  Sadly he didn't mark what the relationship was but great-aunts said they were cousins.

Going to try to attach the marriage certificate and photo if I can.

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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Monday 21 May 12 10:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Thank you so much for your replies, much food for thought.  I made a mistake in transcribing the marriage extract for Joseph McAvoy and Jane Hopps in that the England witness was Joseph England (not James).  I recently had contact with someone researching this line and they sent me their marriage being:

Page 91, 1857 - Marriage solemised at the Parish Church in the Parish of Seagoe in the County Armagh.
No. 182
Date of Marriage: 13 March 1857
Parish/District: Seagoe CI
County: Armagh
Husband: Joseph England, Knock Parish of Seagoe, Weaver, Age 25, Bachelor, Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Father James England Farmer. Mother not recorded.
Wife: Elizabeth Ann McAvoy, Knocknamuckly Civil Parish, Weaver, Age 22, Spinster (Previously unmarried), Father Bernard McAvoy, Weaver, Mother unrecorded.
Witnesses: Francis Hollywood and George Somerville.
Married in the Parish Church by C. Wolseley Curate, Parish of Knocknamuckly.

My McAvoys (also recorded at times as M'Avoy, McEvoy) to the best of my knowledge and information from late great-aunts were originally all Church of Ireland, later some Methodists and Presbyterians, even Salvation Army with one of Joseph and Jane's children.

I am sure somewhere amongst all this is some sort of relationship now its just establishing it, vbg.  I certainly will check out the Lewis/Lucas side.  I have found at Family Search a possible death for a Lewis McAvoy born about 1812, died 1882 which may fit but as yet not able to order the film to check it out.


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Armagh / Re: Somervilles of Ballyhannon/Portadown
« on: Sunday 20 May 12 11:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I have an extract from the Marriage Registry for my great-great grandparents Joseph McAvoy, Weaver of Knocknamuckly, father Lewis McAvoy, Weaver and Jane Hopps, Weaver of Ballydugan, father William Hopps, Weaver.  They married in the Parish of Knocknamuckly on 8/2/1861.  The marriage was conducted by Abraham Dawson.  Witnesses to their marriage were George Somerville and James England.

I'm still researching and have hit a brickwall in respect of Lewis McAvoy and have not yet been able to get back from 1861.  The interesting thing is that I often wondered if the witnessess to their marriage may have been related as sometimes was the case.  I have located a possible link of James England marrying an Elizabeth Ann McAvoy which I am still exploring as to whether she may have been a cousin to Joseph.

I came across your discussions here in respect of George Somerville and notice there was a marriage to Ann Hopps and of course am curious if this Ann Hopps may have been related to Jane Hopps.  Would anyone have anything further on these two which might help me.  Unfortunately, the marriage records don't list mothers so distinguishing my line further is difficult.  Also can you explain which marriage of George Somerville does Ann Hopps fit in.

On the same page of the copy I obtained for Joseph and Jane's marriage is another marriage for William Dines and Margaret Wilson, Widow as follows:

No. 62, Married 7 Feb. 1861, William Dines, 40, Bachelor, Farmer, Ballydugan, Father William Dines, Farmer.
Margaret Wilson, 30, Widow, Weaver, Ballydugan, Father Robert Adamson, Farmer.
Marriage in the Parish Chuch, Parish of Knocknamuckley in the County of Armagh according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the United Church of England and Ireld by Licence by Abraham Dawson the Incumbant.
William Dines signed with his mark X
Margaret Wilson signed with her mark X
Witnesses were Christopher Blane and Mary Ann Adamson

(Ref. Page 493, No. 63, Film No. 0101248, Ireland Marriages 1860-1861, Church of Jesus Christ, Later Day Saints, Vol. 7 Page 483. (Film No 0101428 ordered from Fiche 0002 Locality Catalogue, Ireland, Civil Registries).

Look forward to any follow ups pleas.

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