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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Help Dating if Possible
« on: Monday 25 June 12 04:33 BST (UK) »
These are children which I remember you saying are harder to date, but would appreciate the attempt.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Help Dating if Possible
« on: Monday 25 June 12 04:28 BST (UK) »
I have attached some pictures that I need to try and date if possible. Depending on the dates, I can then identify them correctly as within the family, the same name is used quite often in different generations.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Date these photos please
« on: Friday 08 June 12 06:39 BST (UK) »
Britt -
Yes I do - these are some of the pictures I was going to send you. The first picture of the two you girls is:
Standing - Edna Belle Joslyn - at age 17 is the daughter of George Allen Joslyn - Jerusha's brother
Sitting is Fannie May (Higgison) Joslyn Wife of George Howard Joslyn Edna Belle's brother.
The second picture is not good but is Mary Ann Joslin Daughter of George Joslin who is the brother of John Joslin - Jerusha's father, and Magdaline (Lee) Joslin. Mary Ann married Robert Benjamin McNinch.
The third picture is of two of JHL Joslyn's children the boy is Austie (Manly Austin Joslyn) and the girl is Gracie.
I have lots more...help yourself!
The picture I have attached here is the children of Charles Edward Joslyn and Mary Jane (Logan) Joslyn (Jerusha's Brother). The children are:
Oldest girl - Ida May Joslyn
Boy - John Lyman Joslyn
Young grl in chair - Mina Joslyn
They moved to Michigan in 1880 before Mina was born. Mary Jane left Charles after the kids were older and remarried a guy named Bates
Bob
Yes I do - these are some of the pictures I was going to send you. The first picture of the two you girls is:
Standing - Edna Belle Joslyn - at age 17 is the daughter of George Allen Joslyn - Jerusha's brother
Sitting is Fannie May (Higgison) Joslyn Wife of George Howard Joslyn Edna Belle's brother.
The second picture is not good but is Mary Ann Joslin Daughter of George Joslin who is the brother of John Joslin - Jerusha's father, and Magdaline (Lee) Joslin. Mary Ann married Robert Benjamin McNinch.
The third picture is of two of JHL Joslyn's children the boy is Austie (Manly Austin Joslyn) and the girl is Gracie.
I have lots more...help yourself!
The picture I have attached here is the children of Charles Edward Joslyn and Mary Jane (Logan) Joslyn (Jerusha's Brother). The children are:
Oldest girl - Ida May Joslyn
Boy - John Lyman Joslyn
Young grl in chair - Mina Joslyn
They moved to Michigan in 1880 before Mina was born. Mary Jane left Charles after the kids were older and remarried a guy named Bates
Bob
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Date these photos please
« on: Thursday 07 June 12 18:09 BST (UK) »
All of these pictures were originally scanned as TIFF files because the resolution pixel wise is better than JPEG. I have converted most to JPEG, but keep the original TIFFs as backup. JPEG is more the universal format used on the internet as the file size is much smaller and easier too send.
In the first picture the young lady standing was born in 1880 and is supposed to be 17 years old in this picture so I would assume 1897.
The second picture is poor but is of a young women born in 1857 and taken before she was married. I assumed she was around 20 in this picture so placed it at about 1877.
the third picture of the children I assumed to be taken about 1895. the boy would be around 4 or 5 and the girl would be 7 or 8.
The finishes on these pictures are not "flat". They seem to have a dull shine to them. None of these are retouched or restored. That is also why I sent the TIFF format files as they were the original scans. I always initially scan in color as it is easy to change to B&W if I want to. I appreciate the advice on scanning and will remember it in the future. Do you also date and advise on larger ovals that appear to be drawings instead of Photos. I have several of both types.
I have had some larger pictures and Drawings restored by a professional Museum Archivist, with amazing results, but it is also very costly. The smaller prints I have are now stored in Archival boxes, with special acid free tissue separating them. My problem now is that my sons are not the least interested in any of the family history or pictures, and when I am gone I have no idea what will happen to them. That is one of the reasons I have been scanning and disseminating them as much as possible so they will not be lost forever.
In the first picture the young lady standing was born in 1880 and is supposed to be 17 years old in this picture so I would assume 1897.
The second picture is poor but is of a young women born in 1857 and taken before she was married. I assumed she was around 20 in this picture so placed it at about 1877.
the third picture of the children I assumed to be taken about 1895. the boy would be around 4 or 5 and the girl would be 7 or 8.
The finishes on these pictures are not "flat". They seem to have a dull shine to them. None of these are retouched or restored. That is also why I sent the TIFF format files as they were the original scans. I always initially scan in color as it is easy to change to B&W if I want to. I appreciate the advice on scanning and will remember it in the future. Do you also date and advise on larger ovals that appear to be drawings instead of Photos. I have several of both types.
I have had some larger pictures and Drawings restored by a professional Museum Archivist, with amazing results, but it is also very costly. The smaller prints I have are now stored in Archival boxes, with special acid free tissue separating them. My problem now is that my sons are not the least interested in any of the family history or pictures, and when I am gone I have no idea what will happen to them. That is one of the reasons I have been scanning and disseminating them as much as possible so they will not be lost forever.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Date these photos please
« on: Thursday 07 June 12 06:54 BST (UK) »
I have attached (I hope) some pictures of the Joslyn family. Can you date these.They are all printed on paper glued to the heaver card stock. Only one has a photo studio name on it. They are also all the same size (about 4 by 6 inch) and they are not sepia toned.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Date my Victorian ladies please?
« on: Thursday 07 June 12 06:47 BST (UK) »
I would still disagree on the dating. There is no doubt of the picture of Jerusha. My grandfather knew his own mother. Albumen prints were invented in 1850 and by 1855 they were in common use as you could make more than one copy from a single glass negative. I definitely do not pretend to recognize women's fashions. One thing I have noticed is that from the early 1800's until the start of the 20th century women had long full dresses. None of which looked very good (my personal impression) - It was more in the hats they wore that changes really occured.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Date my Victorian ladies please?
« on: Thursday 07 June 12 04:26 BST (UK) »
My name is Bob and I was the one that provided the pictures to Britt except for the tintype and the one marked Emma. Jerusha was my great-grandmother. Also please note on the set of four close-ups that she is wearing the same locket in the hair down picture and the tintype picture. she had that locket as a gift from her mother and was buried with it.
The Group Picture of Jerusha and her aunts was unlabeled, but I have the single picture of Jerusha as a young women with long curled hair and it is labeled as Jerusha Joslin. It is the same girl as in the group picture and even the dress looks the same except for the collar. Britt's tintype picture is also the same dress as in the group picture, but again with a different collar. I sent a copy of the group picture to another Joslyn in Michigan and he was able to identify who the aunts were. Jerusha was born in 1836 and her aunts were born in 1822 - Eliza, 1829 - Mary Ann, 1832 - Maria Frances, and 1836 - Lydia. So actually Lydia and Jerusha were the same age, and the oldest aunt (Eliza) was only 14 years older than her.
Women's dresses of that time had separate collars so the change of collars seems quite normal. I would date those pictures to around 1856-1860 which is before Jerusha was ever married. The ages of the aunts would also match with that time period. Jerusha married Jeramiah White in 1864 and Robert Park in 1870. I do have pictures of Jerusha - at age 50 years and beyond also. I also have both of her marriage certificates.
The group picture as well as a picture I have of John Joslin, Jerusha's father are the older "albumen" type photos that came out starting in 1850 and ran to around 1890 or so. Unfortunately for me I didn't find the pictures quick enough as my grandfather and great Uncle had put them away in a box in an outside shed and the mice got to them. I guess the albumen (egg whites and salt) were rather tasty and several pictures were destroyed beyond salvaging.
The picture that Britt has marked Emma could, and probably is Emma. She was 21 years younger than her sister Jerusha but they did look the same. Emma was also an Innkeeper as well as a dressmaker in Broadview, Saskatchewan before going to Winnipeg, Manitoba. Her parents John and Hannah Joslin are buried in Broadview, Saskatchewan
The Group Picture of Jerusha and her aunts was unlabeled, but I have the single picture of Jerusha as a young women with long curled hair and it is labeled as Jerusha Joslin. It is the same girl as in the group picture and even the dress looks the same except for the collar. Britt's tintype picture is also the same dress as in the group picture, but again with a different collar. I sent a copy of the group picture to another Joslyn in Michigan and he was able to identify who the aunts were. Jerusha was born in 1836 and her aunts were born in 1822 - Eliza, 1829 - Mary Ann, 1832 - Maria Frances, and 1836 - Lydia. So actually Lydia and Jerusha were the same age, and the oldest aunt (Eliza) was only 14 years older than her.
Women's dresses of that time had separate collars so the change of collars seems quite normal. I would date those pictures to around 1856-1860 which is before Jerusha was ever married. The ages of the aunts would also match with that time period. Jerusha married Jeramiah White in 1864 and Robert Park in 1870. I do have pictures of Jerusha - at age 50 years and beyond also. I also have both of her marriage certificates.
The group picture as well as a picture I have of John Joslin, Jerusha's father are the older "albumen" type photos that came out starting in 1850 and ran to around 1890 or so. Unfortunately for me I didn't find the pictures quick enough as my grandfather and great Uncle had put them away in a box in an outside shed and the mice got to them. I guess the albumen (egg whites and salt) were rather tasty and several pictures were destroyed beyond salvaging.
The picture that Britt has marked Emma could, and probably is Emma. She was 21 years younger than her sister Jerusha but they did look the same. Emma was also an Innkeeper as well as a dressmaker in Broadview, Saskatchewan before going to Winnipeg, Manitoba. Her parents John and Hannah Joslin are buried in Broadview, Saskatchewan
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