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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth EXON times two!
« on: Saturday 13 March 21 08:55 GMT (UK)  »
As William and Elizabeth were living in Croyden Reg District in 1911 I wonder if this might be the death of the second Elizabeth of her age was mistrancribed?  :-\ 

 EXON, ELIZABETH     age 42 
GRO Ref: 1914  Sept Qtr  CROYDON  Vol 02A  Page 320

Thanks for your help Kay99.  The Martha living with William and Eliza PENNY is definitely my Martha.  However, I wonder if the Eliza is actually Ann Eliza who was born in 1843 and is another sister of Elizabeth.  There was also a Betsy born in 1845 just to add to the confusion.  I will track through the William PENNY option to see where they came from and where they ended up.

The 1914 death registration is well worth pursuing and I'll order that certificate.

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Elizabeth EXON times two!
« on: Saturday 13 March 21 03:54 GMT (UK)  »
I have a mystery which has had me stumped for a good 15 years.  There are two women born 22 years apart in Kilton, Somerset, both with the name Elizabeth EXON who "married" the same man named William MANN.

The first Elizabeth EXON was born in 1844 and married William MANN in Kensington, 15 April 1875.  They divorced in 1889 and another woman named Elizabeth EXON is named under the claim for adultery.  The "new" Elizabeth EXON and William MANN then have two children; Cecilia Exon MANN born in 1890 and William MANN born in 1891.  Both are described as the children of William and Elizabeth MANN of 101 Walmer Rd in their baptism records.

In the 1891 census they family are recorded under the surname MANN.  In the 1901 census, Elizabeth is living with her son William EXON and is recorded as the boarder of William MANN.  She is also using the surname EXON again.  Their daughter Cecilia has died of measles.

In the 1911 census, William, Elizabeth and their son are recorded with the surname EXON.  They are recorded as being married for 22 years which would have been 1889, the same year as the first wife Elizabeth EXON filed for divorce, but there isn't a marriage record.

William MANN senior died sometime between 1912 and 1918.  His son William MANN, is using the surname EXON when he married in 1918 and his death in 1936 is registered under the surname EXON.

The mystery is Elizabeth EXON as she doesn't exist prior to 1881 and disappears after 1911.  Co-incidentally, both Elizabeth EXONs worked for the same family with the surname WALTHAM who lived in Stanford Rivers, Essex.  Elizabeth (b. 1844) worked for the WALTHAM family in 1861 and Elizabeth (b.1866) worked for the same family in 1881.

Its a very complicated situation and if anyone can find details of the Elizabeth EXON (b. 1866) prior to 1881 or after 1911, I will be eternally grateful.

Thanks for reading my long winded post :)

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Ann & William Bailey - Union Workhouse
« on: Saturday 13 March 21 03:17 GMT (UK)  »
UPDATE:
This quest has taken several years but I finally located "Anna" Bailey who turned out to be Hannah Bailey.  I now have a later marriage for her to a Phillip NURCOMBE and the birth of several other children and have also located Hannah's parents; James BAILY and Ann STAPLE.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Child Support and Jail
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 01:35 GMT (UK)  »
I don't know and wouldn't have a clue as to which newspaper it would be in if it was.  My father was 12 when he left and his older siblings were 15 and 17.  I'm not sure if he would paid for the children until they reached a certain age and if he would still have to pay maintenance to his wife after the children left home.

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London and Middlesex / Child Support and Jail
« on: Sunday 07 March 21 00:49 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to find some way of locating information regarding non payment of child support and jail as a result.  My grandfather left his wife and children in 1934 and I have been told that he went to prison (or jail) for not supporting his family.

His wife was living in Hammersmith and he moved in as a lodger with a family in Hornsey.

Does anyone have any suggestions of how and where to find this information?  I live in NZ so don't have anyway of visiting any record offices in London.

Thanks in advance.

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Armed Forces / Re: Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards
« on: Tuesday 28 July 20 21:25 BST (UK)  »
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That does sound incredibly familiar and what a huge coincidence!!  Is the forum on the FindMyPast website or is that the Facebook FindMyPast group?


It's their "forum" on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/groups/findmypastofficial/?post_id=2804959043125821

Good grief...this is an amazing coincidence as we are definitely researching the same family!!!  There was another post on the group discussing the duplicate marriages 5 years apart.  Thanks ShaunJ for pointing me in this direction.

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Armed Forces / Re: Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards
« on: Tuesday 28 July 20 20:55 BST (UK)  »
I don’t think I added these records gives Arthur & Elizabeth’s cause of death, intended place of burial….
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QR8N-WNMM
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WZMW-PTPZ

New Cemetery Brixton Johnannesburg 
(unfortunately there doesn’t appear to be an entry for Arthur & Elizabeth on Find a Grave)
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2331135/brixton-cemetery

There was a topic Re: Brixton Cemetery Johannesburg - here’s the link
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758579.9

Article on the cemetery
http://www.theheritageportal.co.za/article/nostalgia-and-remembrance-brixton-cemetery

Thanks Landyhawk, your sleuthing skills leave mine for dust  :D

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Armed Forces / Re: Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards
« on: Tuesday 28 July 20 20:46 BST (UK)  »
There was this query in the FindMyPast Forum a couple of days ago ...seems a familiar tale:

"I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips for researching Grenadier Guards Records in the 1860’s. 
I know the person’s name and his death details (he died whilst in The Guards and a question was asked in Parliament about his death!). .. He was a Colour Sargeant in the 3rd Battalion
."

That does sound incredibly familiar and what a huge coincidence!!  Is the forum on the FindMyPast website or is that the Facebook FindMyPast group?  I don't have a subscription to FindMyPast but couldn't see a forum on their site using my free membership.

I had seen the record for George BROWN with the regiment number of 1536 on the Forces War Records website but had initially put it to the side as he was recorded as "1st (or Grenadier) Regiment of Foot Guards".  However, now I suppose it could also be him. 

Previously, I have been successful in receiving records for another relative who served in the Grenadier Guards but he served a bit later on from 1908.  Thanks again for your help.

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Armed Forces / Re: Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards
« on: Tuesday 28 July 20 09:09 BST (UK)  »
I really appreciate the help that you have both given me.  There's no way I would have been able to find this information.  It's wonderful that these brick walls have now been broken.  The next thing I'll do is order the death certificate for George Brown.  Shame that there isn't a regimental number so I could order his military records.

I'm assuming that the Grenadier Guards weren't involved in any military conflict between 1866 and 1876....but military history is not my strength :)

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