Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Lubricated

Pages: [1] 2 3
1
Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Styles and Stiles researchers and DNA
« on: Tuesday 16 March 21 14:19 GMT (UK)  »
I’m brick walled with my STYLES / STILES research in Essex. This is my Paternal ancestry line. My last definite ancestor was Samuel Stiles who married Sarah Pearce in Writtle in 1743.  I don’t even know if Samuel was born in Essex but if he was, I have found 3 possible baptism candidates and I've not been able to determine if one of them is the right one. There could well be more candidates whose baptism records haven’t survived; as one involved in transcribing Essex ecclesiastical records, I am well aware there are many gaps, particularly 1700-1750.

So, I am now looking at DNA. I’ve had the FTDNA Big Y test. From my Y DNA I have a definite match with a family group resident in Millbrook, Bedfordshire 1600-1620ish. They might be direct ancestors or they might just be cousins. I’ve also had Autosomal DNA tests done with both FTDNA and Ancestry.

I would love to hear from anyone who knows they are a descendant from any Styles or Stiles line and who has had a DNA test done. Whether we find we match or we don’t match, just knowing this will surely be some progress for both of us. I promise all replies will be answered.

Lubricated

2
Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: FTDNA query
« on: Tuesday 16 March 21 13:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi. I had the same issue and contacted FTDNA about it. Net result it was reported as a "bug". I was told it would be at least 14 days before they could respond. I never did hear, but the issue has now disappeared. Oddly, a distant genetic cousin had the same issue. The common feature seems to be that we have all had our fathers tested / uploaded their DNA data and then the issue has arisen.

It's not a problem now so I'm not chasing it

Lubricated

3
London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: James Cecil
« on: Saturday 28 October 17 19:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Prelli

I have not seen the death certificate but I firmly believe the Sarah Cecil who died in the last quarter of 1841, in her 90's, was the widow of Thomas Cecil who was one of the sons of Charles Cecil and Judhy Raby. Her maiden name was Waterlow, and she and Thomas were married 8 Jan 1775 at St Dunstan, Stepney.

Lubricated

4
An update to earlier posts....

Discovered that the Society of Genealogists in London were more than happy to take any certificates I didn't want!

So the wife and I scanned all the certificates we had, that's both the ones which were relevant to our trees and the ones which were not, and then gave them to S.O.G.  Just over 400 of them.

If I understood them correctly, S.O.G. have an upcoming project regarding BMD certificates. So at some future time it might be worth contacting them before purchasing from the GRO.  In the meantime it looks as though they will happily take all those unwanted certificates - I'm sure they'll even take them from non-members! ;)

Just in case the drives holding the scans die, we've attached copies of the scans to our trees (we use Family Tree Maker) and have then backed up our trees on line to Ancestry. So our trees and data and scans won't die with us.

Minor point: A typical scan of a BMD certificate as a .jpg file creates a file about 4 Megabytes in size. One scan on it's own is not a problem but a couple of hundred starts to create a huge file when all brought together, as in linking to a tree. To overcome this we compressed the scans to approx. 1/10th their original size.  We used Microsoft Office Picture Manager but I'm sure that most image software packages could do the same. Compression doesn't destroy the image or data, and it makes a collection much more manageable.

Lubricated

5
Hi Stan

Thanks for your comments. I did wonder about the officiating minister.  The signature is quite clear "Geo Bale".  The Rector at the time was a Sackville S. Bale who was elderly and died in 1836.  I don't know if he habitually signed Geo Bale. Guess I will have to look at the Withyham Register for that time, and then possibly the consistory court records to see if there's anything there.

6
I have come across two weddings ceremonies which took place between the same couple in two Anglican Churches within 11 miles and 4 months of each other.  Can anyone offer any reason as to why this happened?

For some reason I get the feeling they were probably forced to undergo the second ceremony but I cannot find any reason why. Nor can I find any logical reason why they should want to do so.

William Reed and Sophia Seaman were first married in Withyham Parish Church, Sussex, on 18 February 1833 (Register No. 258). William Reed signed, but looks childish as if practised specially for the occasion, Sophia Seaman X. Witnesses Thos. Elphick (Signed) and Harriet Cridall X.

On 25th June 1833 they married again in Buxted Parish Church, Sussex (Register No. 217). This time the bride is recorded as Sophia Seymour, both bride and groom signed with an X. Witnesses were the same Thos. Elphick (Signed) and an Esther Daws X.

By Horse and Cart there's less than 11 Miles between the Churches.

I have been studying the Seaman/Seymour name in East Sussex and have ample proof they are completely interchangeable, together with a multitude of other variants, even within the same family group. Both marriages were by Banns. Both bride and groom came from very poor agricultural labouring families. I have not found any evidence to suggest they were separate couples with identical or very similar names; I’ve only ever found the one valid Sophia Seaman or Seymour, etc.

To add to the puzzle, Ellen Seymour, daughter of Sophia Seymour a single woman, was baptised in Buxted on 2 Jun 1833. I don’t know when she was born, it might have been before the first marriage in February that year. She appears in the 1841 Census under the name of Reed but that’s not an uncommon thing. She is definitely the daughter of the Sophia who married William Reed.

From research I’ve learnt that a marriage can be treated as “voidable” and thus cancelled if contested by one party in court, and one justifiable ground is the woman being pregnant by another man at the time of the marriage.  But I’m struggling with this being the case here; first I doubt there was enough money for a court case, second I doubt there was enough time, and third why go through all that process only to get married again?

So I’m back to wondering whether the local Rector at Buxted had some influence in requiring a second marriage ceremony.  Why was the first child baptised Seymour and not Reed ? I’ve no evidence that Ellen was the child of William Reed. Is there something in the church laws at that time that might have had some impact on this state of affairs?

I’m baffled – and intrigued. Any solutions anyone?

7
Herts Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/51 Census Lookup Please - CRUMP - Barnet
« on: Saturday 10 January 15 09:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Just found this posting.

I have the marriage of John Crump and Maria Styles in my tree, 14 Feb 1827, St Pancras Old Church, London.

I don't have anything on John Crump but I can help with Maria Styles if it is of interest; she was my 4x Great Aunt.

8
Cumberland / Re: Shortridge
« on: Wednesday 07 January 15 09:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

I'm new to Rootschat and am gradually searching some of my names.  Found this old post. Apologies if you have since found this answer...

The branch under notice means the branch of the family tree being studied.

It comes from:

Transactions of the Cumberland & Westmorland Antiquarian & Archaeological Society (Founded 1866) Volume XXXIX - New Series. Editor W.T. McIntire, B.A., F.S.A. printed 1939.....

Page 35. Art. V. - The Shortridges. The records of a Cumberland family. By M Aird Jolly

"The family of Shortridge is a lowland one Scottish one, of which the branch under notice migrated southward and eventually crossed the border to settle amid the fells of Cumberland" is the introductory first paragraph.

My Grandmother was a Shortridge. Her brother was Travis Shortridge who was the pilot of the Southern Cloud passenger airplane which disappeared in Australia in the 1930s and wasn't found until the 1950s. Our lines descend from William Shortrigg and Betty Routledge who are the head of the branch discussed in the above article.

Hope this helps.

 

9
Census and Resource Discussion / Re: BMDshare - will it come back? - alternatives?
« on: Tuesday 06 January 15 15:41 GMT (UK)  »
Very true.  But I want rid of the paperwork because I spend more and more of my time in a Motorhome and storage is going to become an issue.

Did think of sending them to various Family History Societies, even SOG in London, but they all have the same storage issue - storage is why 70% of the UK's shipping Crew Lists ended up in Newfoundland!

I am going to Scan the BMD certs and keep the digital image. Once the original certificate has gone I can then either send an image to any subsequent enquirer or at the very least send them a summary. Scanning is why I no longer need any certificate or other copy paperwork for that matter.

I looked at this long and hard - what are my kids going to do with my records when I'm dead? They'll chuck em away. So I might as well get rid of them where they'll do some good.

Pages: [1] 2 3