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Hello  Mel, Jackie, and my friend Westoe( and our Lass)

Yes it is for certain that he was with the Waterlow and Layton section, though  before the split, he and his sister Lavinia ( who was it appears, worked in Binding & Velum work)  had already been there for sometime.
If you have the time, Mel, would appreciate any info, as only knew about him from a 'one-liner' in Grand Aunty's book ( The Story of a Saxon Family ) and unfortunately all her papers and the family albums disappeared, even though the Executor was due to place them all with Exeter Archives !!

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John

Did find two other bits of info on our Walter John, one that in September 1895  he came third in the 12 hour race ( Which Pegasus claim they were the first club to introduce) - he did 231 miles 500 yds

In 1899 Walter was down as : Racing Hon.sec, and they are still using Kensal rise Athletic grounds, he also that day raced in the Half-mile handicap, in the 2 mile Tandem Handicap and in the Fifty mile Handicap. This was all in the August - so would be surprised if they just packed  up - did they by chance merge with another club?

Strange entry I found was in March 1896, when he appears to be playing a Cornet at The Brondesbury Violin Classes Concert - well why not, his father after all was Bandmaster for the Tower Hamlets Rifle Volunteer Brigade. Just surprised he could find enough Puff after all that cycling!

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John

Thanks again Pampoen
An interesting couple of sites - think will copy the articles and forward to Trump !!!
Why an earth did they not keep Electoral roll, thank goodness your country and N.Z. otherwise would not have found our lot out there, or old Charlie Angas N.Z's  Tennis champion.

You are correct Henry never went out and died leaving his will to 'Emily Stevens', so whether they actually married or not ? but she was down as his wife on the Census- so will could have been made before they officially ? married.HE left her £177 and probate was cleared by 10th May just a month after he died - SO Emily was a bit liberal  on what she told the man in Bloomfontein, to say the least.
Just can find no other female Tillmans going to S.A. either side of 1903 ( which is when she stated she came over). Hope above gives insight (Fuzzy Logic style) to what might -have appeared - or seemed to have happened.

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John

To answer my own question and so not to waste others time - Have found details of the above ship and photo, which I will try to attach, as if she carried 300 passengers to S.A. on a regular basis, there is a good chance that people reading this might have had relatives arrive on her.

Back to Emily - why did she go out - maybe one of two possibilities - with a friend or to work. Now all I can use is 'Fuzzy Logic' - which to me says - in those days for a lady to travel own her own that distance to search for a job was not so usual - to be employed at a distance?? not likely.

The only help in this case, is that Emily was going to Port Elizabeth, whereas the majority were for Capetown.
Now whereas in steerage all passengers were in alphabetical order - in Cabin class no, so listed by cabin numbers - On one side of Emily was a Mr E.L. Broom, and in the cabin next to him was Miss Luards - the other side to Emily were Mrs & Miss Bidgood - ALL landed at P.E.
If by now you have not switched off - my fuzzy logic is saying - if she was with Mr Broom, then maybe it was he that she married in 1907 or  Emily might have been employed by Mrs Bidgood (in London)to look after her daughter and be travelling out with them ??

OKAY that's all Folks - any help is welcome.

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John