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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Monday 01 September 14 11:39 BST (UK)  »
James Climo who married Amelia and emigrated to NZ is my 4th gr.grandfather. He was born on 28 January 1820, in Bodmin Cornwall :)
He emigrated to NZ with his wife Jane Phillips (b.1821 St. Kew, Cornwall) whom he married in Stoke Damerel, Devon, on 30 October 1840. They arrived in New Plymouth NZ on 31 March 1841 on the ship, William Bryant, with Jane's widowed mother, Ann Phillips and her siblings in tow. They had 12 children, the eldest of which, Elizabeth Catherine Climo (later Pope) was the first European baby born in Taranaki. She was born on 08 November 1841. She is my 3rd gr. grandmother.
Jane died in Inglewood, NZ on 01 July 1884 of Tuberculosis & is buried in Inglewood cemetery. James married Amelia Russell (nee Kingcombe) the following year. She became a friend of James & Jane - a widow herself, she helped James nurse Jane through her illness. James & Amelia married in Halcombe, Manawatu on 24 June 1885. They moved to Havelock, in Marlborough, NZ where they lived until their deaths - James died on 11 Sept. 1911 at the age of 91 and Amelia died 3 months later on 22 December 1911 and they are buried in Havelock Cemetery.
From all the stories I have read about James, he was a very remarkable character. To live to the age of 91 in those times is a great feat. He did not retire until the age of 81, so the family stories go. He was a sawyer but he was also a respected herbalist - he learnt the Maori language fluently, and learnt everything about the culture and was respected among local Maori. He knew plants and flowers inside out. He was known for his walkabouts - he & Jane were ship-wrecked off the coast of Kawhia, and carrying their two young children on their shoulders, they walked 150 miles through dense bush, fording rivers and only receiving help from local Maori, not the missonaries. It has been noted that he also walked on foot from Auckland to New Plymouth and on another adventure, he walked from Havelock to Lyttleton, near Christchurch. (This probably one of his secrets to his longetivity)!

We have John Saunders Climo born to Thomas Climo (13 Sept 1738 - 13 Feb 1823) who married Catherine Burton (1758 - 13 Feb 1846). They married 25 December 1782 in Truro, Cornwall. John Saunders Climo was born 26 May 1799 in Egloshayle, Cornwall. He was the 8th-born child (10 children were born to Thomas & Catherine). He married Mary Mann (also known as Tarman) on 26 May 1818. John died 14 February 1847 and Mary died in 1861.

Our family records show John and Mary as James' parents and have done for many years but I know of a long-standing confusion/mystery of James Booking Climo and James Climo throughout the family. There is a baptism record for James Climo, son of John and Mary that exists from 1822 but there are 2 James Booking Climos recorded to have been born to Christopher and Mary Climo - one year apart (b. 1821 and 1822); the first of these two dying in infancy in 1822. There is a baptism record for a James Climo, in 1822, and he was the son of John and Mary.
I'm thinking this is where the confusion has begun?  ???

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: Monumental Inscriptions - Tavistock
« on: Sunday 31 August 14 07:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mo,

I am a direct descendant of Elizabeth Glubb, who married Daniel Ryder on 31 December 1736. They are my 8th gr.grandparents. I have not found any further records about them or their ancestors. But I know that Elizabeth and Daniel had 6 children. My line is through their daughter Elizabeth, who married William Whyting.

Do you have much information on the Glubb family? My trail stops at Elizabeth.

Kind regards,

Amber

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Sunday 31 August 14 03:30 BST (UK)  »
I'm reading through the Climo book to see if anything might match up for you:

John Saunders Climo m. Mary Mann in 1818

1819 - Margaret Saunders -died in infancy
1820 - James Climo
1822 - Abraham Saunders Climo
1823 - Catharine Bullock Climo
1825 - Henrietta Ponson Climo
1828 - Ann Climo
1830 - Elizabeth Climo

Is there another daughter, Martha, that you mentioned previously?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Sunday 31 August 14 03:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Fellow Climo's!

So, since my last post we have found a long-standing error in our tree regarding John Saunders Climo.

Our James Climo was long believed to be the son of Christopher Climo & his wife Mary Booking. However, records obtained since show that James Climo is in fact the son of James Saunders Climo & his wife Mary Mann. So my records now show this:

John Saunders Climo:
BORN: May 26 1799, Bodmin Cornwall.
DIED: Feb 14 1847, Bodmin Cornwall
MARRIED: Mary Mann (also known as Tarman?) 6 May 1821, Bodmin, Cornwall.
CHILDREN:
Margaret Saunders Climo 1819 - 1819 (died in infancy)
James Climo 1820-1911 (my 4th gr.grandfather, who emigrated to NZ with his wife Jane nee Phillips).
Abraham Saunders Climo 1822 - ?
Catharine Bullock Climo 1823 - ?
Henrietta Ponson Climo 1825 - ?
Ann Climo 1828 - ? (is this the Ann Climo, mother of William?)
Elizabeth Climo 1830 - ?

I found James Climo's birth record via the Cornwall online Parish registry which proves his parentage. James lived to the grand old age of 91 (4 mths shy of 92) and is buried in Havelock, New Zealand. At the time of his death, he had 250 living descendants here in NZ alone.

"William Henry Cornish Climo was born 1858 in Penzance. The other William Henry b1860 in St. Austell is a different one.
He was definitely born illegitimately to Ann Climo who was also born in Penzance in 1840.
On his marriage certificate to Beatrice Annie Bennetts he states his father as John. This i believe was really his Grandfather (Ann's Father, John Saunders Climo).
William Henry, John Saunders and John Saunders/Sanders before him were all Tailors. No miners."


I'm thinking your Ann might be the same Ann that is in my tree - born 10 years earlier though?
There's definitely only one John Saunders in our tree ... maybe Ann was born later?
Has got me thinking now!  ???

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur Dawe and Ann Phillips COMPLETE
« on: Sunday 08 June 14 04:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tracey,
How are you getting on with the search for Arthur & Ann? I still have nothing on them other than their date of marriage and a notice of residence in New Plymouth in the early 1840's for Arthur (no mention of Ann - he was living as a single person?). The Climo Chronicles state that when James and Jane came back to Inglewood in the early 1860's, after Jane got sick, her sister Ann had passed away (in 1867) but her mother was still living in the area, yet there are no records. There is a cemetery record for an Annie Phillips in the Te Henui Cemetery here in New Plymouth but the location of the grave is unknown and there are no dates.

Ann James and some of her children and their families are also buried in Te Henui but we haven't been able to physically locate their graves yet ... but we hope to.

I have most of Ann Phillips' Senior's children and descendants listed in my tree - if you would like the information I have, please PM me :)

I think I have found John Phillips' but can't confirm if it's our John or not but the movements of the John I have found come very close to those locations where John & Ann's children were born ... we figured Cornwall would be a similar size to Taranaki - he was an agricultural labourer. The John I found was older than Ann - he died in 1840 aged 65 - Ann was in her early 40's when she was widowed. It was common for men to have younger wives - the marriage record I found has the date of April 1819, in St Teath, Cornwall.

Richard Phillips did go to Ballarat and he married an Australian girl, Elizabeth Jane Pincott, in 1855. They had two children, Richard John Thomas & Elizabeth Jane Annie. Richard died in 1869, aged only 44. Elizabeth re-married to a John Fisher.

John Phillips Jnr died in Mahikipawa, Marlborough aged 65 in 1900. He died of exposure (hypothermia) after a fishing trip.

Please PM me if you want any information and I'll send you my email address - I'm always searching records, looking for answers.

Kind regards,

Amber :)



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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Akld lookup please *COMPLETED*
« on: Sunday 03 February 13 00:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Hev,

Have you found what you were looking for, in regards to Elizabeth Pope?
I don't have any information on her but she has popped up a few times in my research.
Richard and Mary (who are my 4th gr.grandparents) didn't marry until 1832 so was she born before their marriage? Or is she a daughter of Mary's first marriage to William Curry Wilson, whom she married in 1828. Perhaps Richard adopted Elizabeth and raised her as his own.

My 3rd great-grandfather is Richard and Mary's son, George Whiting Pope, who we always thought was the first born of Richard and Mary's children. He married Elizabeth Catherine Climo.

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Kind regards



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Saturday 02 February 13 22:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again,

Yes I believe all the Climo's of Cornwall are attached - I have the family tree dating way back to the late 1400s and it is huge! It started with researching our direct line but the further we went back, the more Climo's that popped up!
Mabinogi en Clem is not for public sale - but there are copies available through Amazon books (that's where my Mother found it). It was written and published for the purpose of a family geneaological record - it is an amazing book so if you can find a copy, it will be well worth the money spent!
The Climo's lived all over Cornwall. Our lot came from the Bodmin area but the others lived and worked in the following districts: Truro, Crantock, Penwyth, St Newlyn, St Austell, Lanivet, Redruth, Fowey, Enoder & Trewalla, as well as other areas. Our direct line has been noted as living in many of those areas as well as Bodmin (where my 4th gr.grandfather was from). Many were tin miners. There were also a select group of Climos that were ordained priests.

A trip to Cornwall is now on the "bucket-list" ... would love to see where our branch came from. We found the house in Cornwall where we think (but hasn't been confirmed yet) my 4th gr.grandfather was born. I'd love to know what happened to his family after he left for NZ - James never saw them again. I have death records for Christopher & Mary Ann and James older brother, who died in infancy (and whom James was named after) and there were several other children whom I know nothing about.

William Henry Climo isn't a direct ancestor - although he would be a distant cousin of our James. I have his mother, Ann b.1828 but that is all I have on her - she was born in Bodmin and the only notes I have for William Henry is that his family lived in the St Austell area. I have Ann's parents as John Saunders and Mary Mann who married in 1818. Their children are listed as:

1819 - Margaret Saunders Climo (died in infancy)
1822 - Abraham Saunders Climo (insufficient information)
1823 - Catharine Bullock Climo (insufficient information)
1825 - Henrietta Ponson Climo (insufficient information)
1828- Ann Climo (insufficient information)
1830 - Elizabeth Climo (insufficient information - family births recorded in Bodmin)

(Funnily enough, back in the day when our family started researching this tree, John and Mary were incorrectly noted to be our James' parents ... which has since been corrected of course!)

John Saunders Climo's parents were Mathew Climo & Ann Saunders - I noted that Matthew & his sister Joice (who died in infancy) were born to Mary Climo but there is no marriage or partner recorded. Was their birth illegitimate also?

Our branch connects with this branch in 1599 - our common ancestors are John Clymmowe & Rebecca Hambley. Our direct line is through their son, Francis Clemow who married Ann Jane.

Kind regards,



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Wednesday 19 September 12 05:30 BST (UK)  »
Hello!

I have a record for a William Henry Climo, born in 1851. His family lived in St Austell, Bodmin, Cornwall.
His parents were George Climo & Mary Ann Cook, who married in 1838.
Their children were:
Rebecca Climo (born 1840)
Mary Ann Climo (born 1843). She married Richard Rowe, in Bodmin, 1862
Samuel Cook Climo (born 1846). He married Emily Searle, in Bodmin, 1880
William Henry Climo (born 1852). No other information is given.

I have the Climo Book, "Mabinogi an Clem" (The Children of Clem). It's the family book, written by Canadian Climo cousins. I am a Climo descendant, through Christopher Climo & his wife, Mary Booking. Their son, James Booking Climo is my 4th gr.grandfather & emigrated to NZ in 1840.

How are you getting on with your Climo research?

Kind regards,

Amber

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