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Argyllshire / Re: Walker-Tarbert, McArthur & Campbell-Lochgoilhead
« on: Monday 05 October 15 04:53 BST (UK)  »
ZerooreZ,

I just looked at my file and have only  Agnes, Jean, William & Mary as children of Margaret McV. & Wm. Watson. Where does Margaret fit in the family?

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Argyllshire / Re: Walker-Tarbert, McArthur & Campbell-Lochgoilhead
« on: Monday 05 October 15 04:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi ZerooreZ,
I was aware of this murder. The recipient of the bullet shot by Pickard was
Duncan McV. born abt 1839, son of Duncan McV. b.1793 & Mary Dawson. He emigrated with his parents 1848 and settled in Blanshard Twp.Perth Co.
Duncan Jr. (1839) m. Jane McCulloch 1867
The following are in section 'A' of the St.Marys Cemetery:
Row 15, # 2 Duncan McVannell died April 21, 1871 age 33, erected by his wife Jane McVannell (no mention that Jane is buried here)
Row 1, # 2 Kate E. Bartlett 1872 - 1956 w/o Duncan McVannell
Also buried in this cemetery without a gravestone is this entry: Duncan McVannell died 1880 age 87

It's as difficult following the McVannells as the McArthurs what with the use of only a half dozen given names
Ian

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Argyllshire / Re: Walker-Tarbert, McArthur & Campbell-Lochgoilhead
« on: Wednesday 11 February 15 23:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Cayley & all,

Does anyone know the outcome of the McVannel's 1848 "Potato Fight"????

Reference   Title   Date
SC50   Campbeltown Sheriff Court   1776-1979
SC50/5   Processes - preservation, 1st series   1830-1975
Country code   GB
Repository code   234
Repository   National Archives of Scotland
Reference   SC50/5/1848/20
Title   Alexander MacKeich, dealer, residing at Dalnacarnan v John MacVannell, Peter MacVannell, and Archibald MacVannell, all farmers in Lemnamuick
Dates   1848
Access status   Open
Location   Off site
Description:   Petition for delivery and for damages: relates to sale of 50 Kintyre bolls of potatoes and the doubling of the price of potatoes.
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I've been looking at what may a questionable land deal between Peter Mc Vannel & his (black sheep) 1st cousin, John McArthur in Ekfrid Twp. Ontario in March 1881.

John seemed to be a poster boy for bad behavior & I've been wondering if Peter was an innocent bystander or a shifty accomplice in some sort of deal.




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Argyllshire / Re: McCook's / Cook's of Argyll
« on: Monday 02 February 15 05:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have a Cook family, John Cook b.abt 1810 md. to Margaret McArthur b.28mar1813 saddell&|
Skipness. John's parents were Neil Cook & Sarah Taylor.

Children of John & Margaret,all born at Brulain farm, Skipness
Anne     15oct1842
Sarah     9oct1844
Margaret abt.1845
Duncan   abt 1847
Neil        20feb1849
John       01nov1851
Peter      13jan1854

Hope it may be a lead,, Ian

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Argyllshire / Re: Walker-Tarbert, McArthur & Campbell-Lochgoilhead
« on: Monday 02 February 15 04:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
In Cayley's original posting the parents of Janet McArthur married to Neil Walker, are listed as Neil McArthur  married to Mary Campbell DOB: Jul. 10, 1796 Kilmarich, Lochgoilhead.
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The " other Janet" , daughter of Duncan McArthur & Margaret McVannel & sibling of Peter & Christin
IGI Batch#C115312
Janat  27Sep1817 Duncan McArthur & Margarat McVannal
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Is there an error in the parentage of Cayley's Janet or was Janet, dau. of Duncan & Margaret, not
the one who married Neil Walker?

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Argyllshire / Re: McArthurs ,Skipness &Kilcalmonell- 1868 letter
« on: Sunday 01 February 15 22:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ann,
Always good to hear from extended relatives!!
As background, the letter we're referring to is a microfilmed copy which came from the Peter G. McArthur fonds at Western University in London Ontario. In the collection notes, it's attributed date was 1818....Given all of the contrary evidence and keeping in mind that the year on the letter is unreadable , & I hadn't found the McPhail death ,I hazarded a guess at 1868
I agree with your conclusion that 8 January 1873 is the likely date. I had previously found this info on Neil Walker pointing to a latest date of Jan.1874.
Canadian Dept. of Agriculture report dated 1881,"Reports of tenant
farmers'Delegates on the Dominion of Canada as a field for settlement" 
in which Neil Walker & family from Achnaglaic,near Tarbert was visited
& interviewed. He left Tarbert in 1874 and was settled just outside Glencoe, Ont.

The letter then is likely prior to 1874
The Malcolm McPhail death in the summer of 1872 seems to confirm this.

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Argyllshire / Re: McArthurs ,Skipness &Kilcalmonell- 1868 letter
« on: Friday 30 November 12 21:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica,

Thanks for the welcome & reply.

I've spent more than 10 years on this ,looking at naming conventions & being frustrated by the fact that all my Skipness McA forbears as well as the ones from next door in Kilcalmonell seem to recycle the same names.

In ans. to your 1st post re: the 10 listed children of Arch McA & Cath Gilchrist.(their children also reused the same given names)

Of these  Peter, John, Kathrin, Duncan,Jean & Archibald all
emigrated to Ontario with their mother in abt. 1840. Father
Archibald didn`t & it`s unknown whether he was still alive.

Son Peter b.1809 was the recipient of the letter.

I`m in son Duncan`s(1819) line

As far as I know, Alex,Donald.Mary & Angus did not emigrate.
The idea of looking for christening sponsors hadn`t occured to me.
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Of father Archibald`s sibling Jean, she married Duncan McVannel(b.abt.1774 -1837)Lemnamuick Kilcalmonell.
3 of their sons involved in a lawsuit in 1848, the same year
they emigrated to Canada.
SC50 Campbeltown Sheriff Court 1776-1979
relates to sale of 50 Kintyre bolls of potatoes and the doubling of the price of potatoes.
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On your comments on the letter, thanks for the census info.
Confirmed John& Mary Robertson.
http://www.myainfolk.ca/records/show/7648
Death for Archibald McArthur
Name:Archibald McArthur
Death:1866 Dec 24
Place:Clonaig
Age:7 Days
Gender:M
Status:Single
Father's name:John McArthur
Father's occupation:School Master
Mother's name:Mary Robertson
Spouse's name:Infant Death
Death cause:Unknown, 5 Days
Death informant:John McArthur (Father)
Death registration:December 25, 1866 at Clonaig

John in Carradale- I`ll check on the estate file with Scotlands people.

This all has given me a lot to chew on.
I`m going to check out more of the Kilcakmonell bunch as the McA`s continued to intermarry with them in Canada.
Thanks again Monica
Ian

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Argyllshire / McArthurs ,Skipness &Kilcalmonell- 1868 letter
« on: Thursday 29 November 12 21:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,

I'm a descendant of arch McArthur & Catherine Gilchrist listed
in the OPR's for Claonaig, Skipness farms.

Hector McArthur m. Meran Carmichal, 18 Mar 1814,Culindrach
Duncan McArthur & Margaret McVannel, 1801 Kilcalmonell
McArthure, Donald, Skipness Parish, McCalllum, Barbra, Carradal Parish, 14 Dec 1807
McArthure, Alexr, Skipness Parish, Murray, Katy, Skipness Parish, 25 Dec 1808
Archibald McArthur & Catherine Gilchrist, 1804 Kilcalmonell
Jean McArthur & Duncan McVannel, abt1800

I do know that Archibald is a sister of Jean who married Duncan McVannel & feel that
most of the other McA's are siblings; however, there's that lack of parentage thing.

In addition I have a letter from scotland to Canada transcribed & attached . A shortage of punctuation makes the family details somewhat convoluted.

If anyone recognizes this family or has some insight into the parentage I'd appreciate suggestions/revelations.

Thanks  Ian

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