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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Florence May Sweet b 1905 in Hendon, Middlesex
« on: Wednesday 26 January 22 21:32 GMT (UK)  »
Don't know how to delete this entry - have found her. She married George White. I am trying to find the whereabouts in the 1939 Register of FLORENCE MAY SWEET born in 1905 to Mark Robert Sweet and wife Eliz Florence Hickman.

She had at least 1 illegitimate child - Florence Rebecca Sweet in 1924 and possibly Gordon C Roy Sweet in 1932. They are both living with their grandparents in 1939. I cannot find their mother.

Any ideas?

Amanda Stone
Don't know how to delete this entry - have found her. She married George White.
What I have found:
She was born 31 Dec 1904. She appears in 1911 census with father Mark Robert and Elizabeth Florence Sweet. She had an illegitimate daughter, Florence Rebecca Sweet on 27 May 1924. She married George White (from Kent) in Oct 1925. She had at least one child with him: Ronald Walter White in 1935. The 1939 register shows them living in Wembley and he is a groundsman (presumably at Wembley). There are two blacked out entries. In the meantime her illegitimate daughter, 15 yo Florence Rebecca is living/staying with grandparents not far away in Wembley. I have concluded that the child Gordon Sweet (known to family as Roy) born in 1932 was born to Isabella (only sister I think, of Flo May).
The family story tells that Flo May Sweet worked at Buckingham Palace and that her illegitimate daughter is related to a royal. I think this is a joke that has gone awry.
Looking at the photo of her daughter, Flo Rebecca, she does have a queen smile! I have no idea how to get hold of lists of servants in the palace if they exist. I don't know how to attach a photo to this message.


A couple of people have associated her with the Flo M who married Cyril Sweet. It is not she. She was born Abbot.

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 17:25 GMT (UK)  »
Anyway to sum up I think (I will review again tomorrow with a fresh brain) that the only two records that relate to my Charles Hawkey are the 1851 census where he is in the Ragged Industrial school and the 1881 census in Wolstanton.

It is possible - likely that the Ann and Charles family in Liverpool are related to him but not directly.

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 17:22 GMT (UK)  »
I have to keep remembering to ignore certian people and families.

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 17:22 GMT (UK)  »
I have no idea. The couple didn't marry. She married another man - the widower of her dead sister and they moved with illegitimate Charles to Barnsley in Yorkshire.

I do see a death in Wolstanton in 1884 (I think that's the date) but I think that might belong to the other Charles Hawkey who was born and raised in Wolstanton. (That added to the confusion!)

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 17:05 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for you help - very much appreciated.

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:41 GMT (UK)  »
"At least we have birth registrations with mothers maiden surname Waterhouse to confirm that the 1851 onwards are all the same family.

Amanda who is your direct line"

So it is difficult to say the line because my husband's great grandpa was illegitimate. His name was also Charles and stuck out like a sore thumb from all other family names before and since. The 1881 census in Wolstanton shows his mother as a servant and Charles Hawkey/Hankey is living in a neighbouring farm. I believe (tentatively) that he is the father. I would love to have at least some inkling of where his line came from.

I think I have found a connecting line of descendants but their lines are from Cornwall - no surprise as this name seems to be a Cornish name.

I am waiting to see if one of them has taken a dna test to check for matches.


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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
"Rosie, you have it. Two sons called Charles born about 10 years apart.
So Charles Hanley and John in 1851 are from another family altogether (or families).
Charles and Ann Hankey appear on FamilySearch as Markey in 1851"

Yes that makes sense now.

So - I think I can tentatively say the two boys in the 1851 census in the workhouse school match the Charles in 1881 census. The other families are not likely connected.

the 1881 census is the key one for me because it shows the presence of a man I believe to be the father of my husband's illegitimate great grandpa living in close proximity to the mother.


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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
"I think that 2 year old Charles that died in 1843 was probably the one on the 1841 census"

OK - so that means I need to look for another birth. He says in the 1881 census that he was born in 1838.

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Cornwall / Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:21 GMT (UK)  »
And here is the Charles Hawkey in the 1881 census in Wolstanton, Chesterton. Cripes can't attach ok so here are the reference numbers:

Registration district
    Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel
    8
Piece
    2705
Folio
    92
Page number
    14
Household Members
    19018771

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