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Thanks for help was much appreciated.  I have noticed on the 1861 census that I cannot find Thomas born 1809 and his son John born 1833.  This I think is the clue to what has happened to Thomas as John married a Jane in late 1861 after the census. And the death cert says that the person with him
at death was a Grace Southward. That person is John's motherinlaw, So perhaps there is a transcribing error. I only have family search and FindMyPast. The death cert said he was living at Camden St Bootle. I will try and play around with the Sharp name and see what I can find.  Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

Thomas Sharpe born 1809-1811 married Jane Lloyd in 1832 St Peter's Liverpool. They had seven children. Jane died 1849 plus three children Robert Jane and Richard. All buried Wesley Chapel Upper Stanhope St Liverpool.
On 1841 census there is a Mary but she does not appear on 1851 census. Cannot find her death
On 1851 census there is Ann aged 5 years with Thomas her brother who lives and Richard who Dies.
Thomas senior is a widower which is correct.
I cannot find Either Thomas  senior or Ann on the 1861 census so am assuming they have died.
I ordered one cert but that is not correct for Thomas. There is a death in 1865 but if that is him
why is he not on 1861 census. I would be grateful for any help as I seem to be going round in circles.
The only remaining children from the marriage was John born 1833 and Thomas born 1836 which is the line I am following. Thanks

Have found Hugh emigrated to America. His death records showed who his parents were. .
So this thread is now finished

I am getting a little muddle up.  As far as I know Rose has never been out to Australia. Do not know if she emigrated anywhere.
Pat

No I do not have anything on Rose.  I have been looking thru Irish records but they are not too good and are hard to read. I will start again looking at them from 1840 to 1855. I have a feeling that she may be the eldest.  Do not know why.
Pat