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That is an interesting car in the foreground. In 1953 Ken Tubman and John Marshall won the inaugural Redex Round Australia trial driving a Peugeot 203, a car with an engine of only 1.3 litres against Holden’s 2.2 litres, a real David versus Goliath. The Peugeot’s reputation for ruggedness and reliability saw it go into local assembly in the same year as the race.

The car pictured would have been a later example (twin tail-lights were introduced in 1955). These later models had a standard sunroof, standard roof racks and were one of the first mainstream cars to come standard with synchromesh on all four gears.

That’s a longwinded way of saying your late 1950s date should be about right.

Anyway, here’s my try.

Cheers,
Peter

Thanks for your great restorations Peter, both the b & w and colour look fabulous!  Thanks also about the info. on the car, I do know my great uncle had a number of Peugeot's, and had he still been around he would have told me all about them.  My great aunt is 90 years old and she is the owner of this photo, all she could tell me was that it was a Peugeot, ha ha!! and that the photo was taken in the late 50's.

She will be thrilled with the great photo restorations everyone has had a hand in!

I can remember Rippleside when it looked very much as your first photo shows Aussielass. 

If we were going on a long car trip in that direction, that would always be our stopping place for loo, leg stretch and lunch break.    ;)

How about that Wiggy, I didn't expect anyone to have a clue about where Rippleside was.   :D ;D

I have been following this thread with interest, and some great restorations on here . Just to add my tuppence worth the reg for that car GDN 739 is actually available to buy as a personal plate at the present time in Australia on sa.gov.au, although locating a quality Peugeot 203 to stick it on may be a little more difficult.

A family member used to have a Jowett Javelin and the Jowetts had three windows on each side. Your car only has two windows...,It's definitely a Peugeot

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Quick small editions

Thanks for that Japeflakes, it's left me wondering when the first colour photo's came in use for the public. Maybe I should go look that up

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Here's one I did earlier and have been waiting to post. I use a very old version of Photoshop, I wouldn't think this is available now.
Pat

I think someone else mentioned that it doesn't matter about the tool it's how well you know the program. My own preference and process is to use the older programs then polish with the later photoshop stuff which tend to have a little more finesse for the fine tuning, although trying to get the old stuff to work in windows 10 can be a challenge. The biggest challenge I find with the later versions of windows is getting the old gedcom files working (which worked perfectly in Win 98)

I have downloaded Gimp on my Windows 10 too, but never use it. It is too complicated for me as I am too old now to start learning a new programme.
Pat  ::) ::) ::)




Hi Trishanne

I do actually use Linux mint and have a copy of gimp on one of my computers through Linux so maybe i'll give Gimp a test drive in Linux first. I never thought of using gimp before but it has been sat on my Linux desktop for some time now




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I'm bat-eyed when it comes to colours so can't help with that discussion except to say that any of the many software programs that restorers use for their work would be suitable for colourising. I think several people on here use different versions of Photoshop or Photoshop Elements and Gimp (a free but very powerful app). Just a word of caution with Gimp. Its interface is not as easy to get used to as some of the others - but those who use it swear by it. There are plenty of review sites comparing the different programs, but really it's like being a carpenter: it's not the brand of tools but how well you learn to use them.

Anyway, here's my try.
Peter

Thanks for that Peter, a good interpretation. It's always a guess work with colourisation and always open to opinion.

By the way, I was always under the impression that Gimp was a Linux thing? Is it available in Windows as well?

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Here's one I did earlier and have been waiting to post. I use a very old version of Photoshop, I wouldn't think this is available now.
Pat

Strange as it may seem I still use paint shop pro 9 for most of the time even though I have elements and photoshop CS. I think it was made by JASC before Corel took over.

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Googling images of milking shed 1920s produces a photo of identical buckets being used to filter raw milk before it goes into the churn, an essential process I had forgotten about as a modern parlour does it automatically

Mike

Not being a bucket specialist I'll go with your expertise on this Mazi :)

I'm still scratching my head about that tool above our friend's head second from right. It looks like a long Lacrosse stick. It's a pole that splits into two above his hand much the same way a hay rake does, then at the top it also has a horizontal section attached to the two halves of the split pole with just a hint of teeth like a hay rake, but the head only seems to stretch in one direction above his head to the right, but just isn't there to the left. What an odd tool! I can't find anything similar on the net anywhere to compare it to. There is some damage to the photo in this area that confuses the situation even more.

Just to be expected in photo's of this age I guess, It is approaching a hundred years old after all

Also interesting that Carnation milk was made quite close by, I often wondered where that was made and who originally made it

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Sorry but are advised not to manipulate photos taken from the internet without the owner's permission.
Carol

Hi Carol, I have already had the discussion with the moderator (Sarah), permission exists and no copyright has been breached.

Apologies for not clarifying this in the initial post

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Late on the scene - as usual   :-[  I don't believe that the buckets have anything to do with "milking" at all.  I remember milking pails as being wide at the top and narrower at the bottom - so you could fit them easily between your legs when sat on the 3-legged milking stool.  Not only that, they are too big.  :o  AND you wouldn't wear a hat with a brim for milking - more likely the equivalent of wearing a "baseball" cap back to front - to protect your head from the cow's hide.

Hi BumbleB

So could that explain the odd skull cap that the person second from right is wearing?

I think the others dressed in white were in charge of the hay collection procedure. I get the feeling he is closer to the cow side of things milking/husbandry kind of stuff. I'm tinkering with a colorised version of the photo but can't decide on his overalls/cape etc as he seems to be dressed in dark colours rather than white

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Lancashire / Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« on: Sunday 16 December 18 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
I agree that a stepmother would have been useful if Valentine didn't have a paid housekeeper, sisters, aunts or mother/mother-in-law around to help, but I haven't seen any reliable evidence to point conclusively to Valentine having married Catharine Green after the death of Alles.

The lack of baptisms for two Valentines is not, for me at any rate, evidence that only one man was involved. I have several ancestors on my tree for whom I haven't been able to find baptisms despite much investigation by me and by others. Some of these missing records can be accounted for by damage/destruction, which I know to have taken place in the disruptive times in  the 17th and 18th centuries (as for example occurred at Rivington Unitarian Chapel).

Do you know conclusively which of the following two Valentines here is which?

Burial: 13 Apr 1774 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Valentine Whalls -
    Abode: Blackrod
    Register: Burials 1727 - 1782, Page 97, Entry 25
    Source: LDS Film 2148001

Burial: 29 Jan 1780 St Wilfrid, Standish, Lancashire, England
Valentine Walls -
    Abode: Blackrod
    Buried by: Richard Perryn, Rector
    Register: Burials 1772 - 1812, Page 26, Entry 12
    Source: LDS Film 1526140

Burial of Alles (nee Orret) 13 May 1749 at Blackrod (from the LPRS):
Alles w Vallintin Walles

Valentine was left with a large family - the couple had 11 children baptised, including twins in April 1749. Acquiring a stepmother for the children would have been very important, even if there was help from relatives.

On an unrelated topic: I know you are interested in the name Donbavand. Are you aware of this record? I realise it may not be of consequence but thought I'd mention it after I found it when investigating Simm ancestors.

Marriage: 2 Aug 1759 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire, England
James Simm - this Parish
Jane Key - (X), this Parish
    Witness: James Bankes; William Donbavand
    Banns Read: 15 Jul 1758, 2nd: 22 Jul 1759, 3rd: 29 Jul 1759
    Married by Banns by: John Lowe Curate

Maybe a lack of baptism could be explained by this document taken from the registers of County Carlow in Ireland?

Baptism of VALENTINE WALL of N/R
on 14 February 1708
Parish/Church/Congregation - TULLOW
Area - CARLOW (COI)

It's only 7 years from Andrew Alston's theory of a 1700 birth year, and this Valentine's father is Robert Wall.

Interestingly this Valentine was born on Valentines day (Hence the origin of the name?)

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