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Hello Polly. You made me revisit all of my records on Henry Terrell Hodge and family. I haven't looked at this part for years. Yes I agree there is no Father named on his baptism/birth. Also on his marriage. So it looks like I'm so wrong. This is brilliant in a way because I am now able to put my tree right. Now I'm also stuck on Mary Hodge. As for Henry's father has anyone looked at Henry Terrell?   There are only a few in Devon. One in 1841 born 1801, married but living very close by to a Thomas Hodge born 1816 a tailor (Lamerton) Did Mary visit her brother? Meet Henry Terrell? I wonder what happened?
 Think I'll be looking at these just to abate my curiosity. Brainstorming is definitely the way to go. 🤔😊

Hi Lesley,

It’s good you had a rethink. It is so easy to jump to the wrong conclusions and head off in the wrong direction. I have now received a death PDF for Henry Terrell Hodge. Thought there might be a faint possibility of it having his parents’ details but, unfortunately, no, it doesn’t. I does tell us however that he died at 6 Artisans’ Dwellings, Notte Street, Plymouth, which is the address of his son, the informant, your ancestor H.T. Hodge. It also tells us that he died of bronchitis/asthma. I could forward you a copy of the PDF if you like – let me know.

Have you a copy of the marriage certificate? They sometimes show fathers’ names. If you haven’t a copy, I may order one.

I did look into your suggestion of searching on ‘Henry Terrell’. A good thought, but I couldn’t find any strong leads. I finally ran out of steam. Have you had any success with it?

That's all for now,

Polly

Susan Hodge age 9 is in Kingsbridge Union Workhouse
1851 HO107; Piece: 1875; Folio: 423; Page: 11
also on this census is a
William Hodge age 62 Slapton Devon, pauper – Is he a relation?

Hi Ladyhawk,

I have looked at the 1851 William Hodge, pauper, census record that you spotted and have no idea who he was. Could be a relation, or maybe just a coincidence that another Hodge was in the workhouse at the same time as Susan. It would be good to keep him in mind though.

Chances are Susan’s son John Henry Hodge was born in the Churchstow institution (Kingsbridge Union Workhouse would it be?) – he was under one year old when they were there in 1871. Funnily enough, the Kingsbridge Union Workhouse appears to be where Susan herself was born in 1841. Like mother, like daughter; unwed mothers giving birth in a workhouse. Grim times.

Thanks for the information about the birth entries for Susan’s sons. I had seen that 1871 census record prior to this and noticed her son John has the middle name Henry. Now I realise William also had Henry for a middle name. As far as I am aware, Mary Hodge was the mother of three children – Henry Terrell Hodge born 1828, William Hodge born 1832 (both born Harberton – no father’s name) and Susan Hodge born 1841 in Kingsbridge. The fact that Susan chose the names Henry and William for her sons gives some hope of proving a sibling connection there. However, finding the identity of their mother Mary Hodge is proving to be a little more difficult.

Your information regarding the Mary Hodge who died March 1884 has lead me to believe that this is not the right one. I now see that there was a Mary Hodge, aged 81, who died March quarter of 1892, Totnes district. She’d be the right age. Another less likely is a Mary Hodge, aged 72, who died March quarter of 1882, Stoke Damerel district. Quite a lot of Mary Hodges to choose from – seems a common name in Devon.

Happy hunting,

Polly

HODGE, SUSANNA
No mother's maiden name so probably illegitimate.
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION  Volume 09  Page 384

Susan was still in the workhouse in 1851.

Debra 

Thanks for responding Debra. That was helpful. I looked to see if I could find a death for this Mary Hodge and found a registration that I strongly suspect might be her. A Mary Hodge died in the Kingsbridge district in the March quarter of 1855. Shame. Would be nice to think she had lived a little longer and at least got out of the workhouse. I could at some stage order a copy of the death certificate, although I realise that such a certificate may have limited information. It may be difficult to confirm that she was Henry Terrell Hodge’s mother.

Wonder what happened to her daughter Susanna (Susan).

Polly

I believe that makes us 3rd Cousins: Annie, Elizabeth Ann's sister, married John Henry Simmons, then down through their son Frank to my father Ian and so to me. I'll sort out what I have on the rest of the Hodges & Pugsleys.

I have been searching in https://www.freereg.org.uk/ and by using a wildcard managed to find baptism records for the children of Thomas and Ann Pugsley (12 children - another large family ). The listings are all from St Andrew’s Church Register, Harberton, Devon. (The mother’s forename for the first record is “Mary Ann”, not just “Ann” as is shown for the other children; but it is my guess that “Mary Ann” and “Ann” are the same woman):

4 Aug 1816 – Child: Mary Ann PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton Ford – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Mary Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J C Hicks”

1 Mar 1818 – Child: Thomas PUGSLEY – Abode: Luscombe – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J C Hicks”

10 Oct 1819 – Child: Jane Elizabeth PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J L Tozer”

6 Jan 1822 – Child: Maria PUGGESLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGGESLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Wm Marshall”

8 Feb 1824 – Child: Susanna PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Anne – Register note: “Recording official: T B Murray is the clerk”

27 Nov 1825 – Child: James PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Anne – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”

30 Dec 1827 – Child: Edmund POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”

21 Feb 1830 – Child: Anna Maria POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “First wrote Henry as child’s name then scratched that out; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”

14 Aug 1831 – Child: Charles POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”

18 May 1834 – Child: Robert PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”

16 Jul 1837 – Child: Sarah Ann PUGSLEIGH – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEIGH, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”

30 May 1839 – Child: Robert PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Privately baptized JRJ; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds JOHNSON”

The baptism listing below is a little different. There was no father’s name and the father’s occupation was “Servant” (but this most likely applied to the mother, not the father):

28 Jun 1837 – Child: James POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father’ occupation: Servant – Mother: Jane POGSLEY – Register note: “Privately baptized by me JRJ; Received into the congregation July 15 1837 by me George Martin; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”

I would say that this child, James Pogsley, was the James Pugsley, aged 4, listed among the members of the Pugsley household in the 1841 census. My guess is that he was the illegitimate child of Thomas and Ann's daughter Jane Elizabeth Pugsley, born 1819. Jane was not in the house when the census was done – maybe she was a live-in servant at another household.

Another odd one is an entry for a child born 1813 with a different mother’s name (I see the abode given of Harberton Ford is also the abode for Mary Ann Pugsley, born 1816):

28 Mar 1813 – Child: Ann POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton Ford – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Sarah – Register note: “Minister officiating: J Williams”

I didn’t quote the record sources for any of the above listings; the record sources were included in the register notes. This posting is long-winded enough without making things worse.

Polly