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Hello all,
I have been reading this thread for the last little while and it has re-peaked my interest in my TRAIES connection.  Have to love this family!!!!
I follow  Jane (TRAIES) and William Henry ROFFE, sister and brother respectively to Ann (TRAIES) and George ROFFE.
 
I do have a couple thoughts and look forward to your comments, as I am obviously joining a group of TRAIES experts.

Re Jane and William Henry in 1851. I have searched for the family in 1851 for while and have concluded that the census for the street/area of Kensington was missed or destroyed.  Here is my reasoning, (please I look to you if these assumptions are too great!)
The four older children (including premarriage Ann Jane, William James, James John and my Jane Traies) were born in Marylebone or at least christened there.
The  next three sisters, (Harriet, Hannah Mary and Marianne) were born in Kensington. (the Kingston found on 1861 was probably Kensington with an accent?). Since Hannah was born in 1851, I bought her birth certificate and found that at her registration (she was born Nov 8, 1851) she was born at Durham Place (as was Jane's residence at the time of registration). I cannot find any 1851 census for around this street. Assuming that they were living at Durham Place, earlier that year when the census was taken, and that we can target the census for a particular area, then I conclude that the census records are not available. (PS i have particularly found your knowledge of the London area at that time interesting.

Re James TRAIES and his many wives. Is there a custom/social norm that might have encouraged a man to marry his housekeeper rather than live unmarried together in a house.  I think that this is what may have happened for our James at least in his later years.. (Maybe this totally obvious to others but I am relatively new to the family history search). If we look at all wives that we have records for (Ann SUTTON, Martha LOOKER, Jane BERRY, and Mary JONES.) All were spinsters at time of marriage....Particularly interesting was the fact Jane BERRY was involved in the family before she and James married and even before Martha died (Sept 2 1842). Jane and James married Nov 13, 1842,  and Jane BERRY was a witness at Ann and George ROFFE's wedding on Aug 11, 1842. (Kerry I think you sent me this info) So obviously she was familiar to the family enough to join William Henry ROFFE as a witness, rather than Ann's sister Jane.

Do we have any information on the witnesses of Ann SUTTON and James TRAIES.  I wondered if there are clues through this angle as to where Ann was from. Benj. Crook and Sarah _______ Tarbson? I am having trouble reading this.
It is interesting that if Hannah and Ann are not the same people, then those children of Ann's are the ones that we have yet to find....were they taken to a home parish to be baptised?

These are my thoughts. I look forward to your comments.

Thanks for all your help anyway... I realized that it was a long shot! William and Jane apparently lived at Ponchidown (Farm) when he wrote the will, Little Hill or Little Hall when he died but then when the will was probated, Jane at least was living in Topsham. She was the only one to sign off on it... No sign of Elizabeth.
I haven't found exactly where Ponchidown (Farm) or Little Hall/Hill are in but am assuming that they are within Kentisbeare Parish.

Thanks so much... WOW How did you ever get Potter out of that! That is them though as the details fit.
Thanks again
Sandra

Thanks so much... Now I have some first names to go by to find Henry's mother.
Thanks

Hello
I have a Henry MARTIN, b1849 in Tunbridge Wells and according to his marriage certificate to Jane Traies ROFFE, he was the son of William MARTIN and ?. Could some kind soul please check the 1851 census to see if he is there with his parents and siblings
Thank you.